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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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warmleyseagull

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
4,201
Beaminster, Dorset
There could be some very interesting scenes in the commons straight after PMQ'S on Wednesday.
Will they just resign and walk out quietly or are they going to cause as much chaos as possible and make life very difficult for Johnson from the very start of his premiership.

64k question. This whole sad story alongside a Leader of Opposition who opposes his own party has been punctuated by episodes of hot air but precious little action. The main 'action' has been the establishment of a Party of 11 who quickly dispersed into 11 parties of 1, making the SDP for those who remember it look like a coordinated political force.

Fundamentally, trying to establish unity with a group of people whose sole basis of unity is being anti something makes cat herding look absurdly simple. It was the problem of the anti EU brigade before the bright idea of a referendum presented them a gift wrapped manual in how to be united for 5 minutes. Now the EU boot is on the other foot, can see no semblance of unity of action, just several folk who will get boot anyway with BJ as PM posturing as to what they might do.
 




golddene

Well-known member
Jul 28, 2012
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really, Watford bloke is an expert at editing post's to correct his mistakes, bloke's a genius :dunce:
regards
DR

I gave your previous post the honour of clicking the link? All I got from that was a vision of YOU, furiously w**king over those weird fine words ! (Note to self, never open a Ppf link, ever)
 


Eeyore

Lord Donkey of Queen's Park
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Apr 5, 2014
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Gerrard Batten doing a Winston Churchill impression. I've seen it all.

He then says how UKIP will lead the charge if BREXIT doesn't happen on March 29. It didn't- then they were destroyed by Farage's new folly.

I actually thought you were the parody account for a moment then.
 




Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,324
Uffern
This but May would have to stay on as PM until such time as a replacement PM is found,

Not necessarily, under the FTPA, the Queen invites someone else to try to form a government - this may well be May but it doesn't have to be. I see Starmer has now been added to the list of possible PMs of national unity.

It's also worth pointing out that if there is a VONC, the same conditions apply - someone else is invited to form a government. It used to be the case that there would automatically be an election but the FTPA stopped that.

We're really in uncharted waters here and I'm not sure that anyone really knows what's going to happen. In theory, Caroline Lucas could be elected interim PM, no-one really knows for sure
 








pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex

Sums up those remoaners (not the same as remainers) who think they have superior intelligence very well, thanks for posting.


Your memory really is terrible .... [MENTION=21401]pastafarian[/MENTION] already nailed you on this ages ago. Please remember this time or no doubt you will be embarrassing yourself again making claims that are completely untrue :p

https://www.northstandchat.com/show...f-March-2019&p=8698566&highlight=#post8698566

He will prob try and claim he was misquoted or his posts edited to show something different from what he said, when what he said was there in black and white all along. Usual story with him, says no deal is not possible then back tracks to say ok it is possible when its pointed out to him its the legal default when leaving if no leaving agreement is in place and both the EU and UK have been preparing for it, even though he says they are lying. Lists every option in various configurations and then says oh look I predicted that. Didn’t understand that a concluded trade deal is not part of the withdrawal deal. Thought the UK parliamentary European Union Withdrawal Act was actually the EU/UK negotiated withdrawal deal, and the less said about his ridiculous personal WTO observations the better.He is a silly billy with a terrible memory…..... it must be an age thing.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
49,337
Faversham
Apparently Hunt, as foreign secretary, is going cap in hand to Europe to set up a fleet to protect shipping in the gulf, after we totally ballsed up the hi jacking of our tanker.
Hope they tell us to piss off.
We have one frigate doing its best but after Iran said we want a British tanker we were at only level 3, now they have done it, we have now raised it to the highest level, too f*****g late you incompetent idiots.
Of course the government are saying that they didn't take their eyes off the ball.
Now we are asking Europe to help.
The farce gets worse.
Expect Boris to be seen in the gulf with a pedalo and a union jack.

Owned by Iran.

How low have we sunk in pursuit of unicorns?

And then there was Boris . . . . the snider. :ffsparr:
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
Apparently Hunt, as foreign secretary, is going cap in hand to Europe to set up a fleet to protect shipping in the gulf, after we totally ballsed up the hi jacking of our tanker.
Hope they tell us to piss off.
We have one frigate doing its best but after Iran said we want a British tanker we were at only level 3, now they have done it, we have now raised it to the highest level, too f*****g late you incompetent idiots.
Of course the government are saying that they didn't take their eyes off the ball.
Now we are asking Europe to help.
The farce gets worse.
Expect Boris to be seen in the gulf with a pedalo and a union jack.

France and Germany have already agreed support for a maritime protection mission involving European countries, so looks like you , and your thumbers HWT and thunder bolt will be disappointed that they havnt told us to piss off. Cant quite understand the objection to it
Surely protecting shipping against Iran acting illegally is important.
The US are talking about their own multinational maritime fleet as well, but we have said we don’t share the policy aims of “maximum pressure” toward Iran that the US administration favours so wont be joining their one.
Anyway, shouldn’t your post be in the Iran thread as it has nothing to do with Brexit.
 




Klaas

I've changed this
Nov 1, 2017
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Pretty Plnk Fairy

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Jan 30, 2008
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Why do you continually ignore reports about the Nazi slogans and vile posts and allow that poster to continue posting? Maybe you can answer it in public because **** all happens through the official channels. The report function is a farce.

Calm down Toby

Regards
DR
 


WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
France and Germany have already agreed support for a maritime protection mission involving European countries, so looks like you , and your thumbers HWT and thunder bolt will be disappointed that they havnt told us to piss off. Cant quite understand the objection to it
Surely protecting shipping against Iran acting illegally is important.
The US are talking about their own multinational maritime fleet as well, but we have said we don’t share the policy aims of “maximum pressure” toward Iran that the US administration favours so wont be joining their one.
Anyway, shouldn’t your post be in the Iran thread as it has nothing to do with Brexit.

Because we are trying to get out of Europe and we stand up and turn our backs and come out with childish snidey rants by Farage and Widdecombe towards the EU. That's why.
And why hasn't the news reported this agreement they are still saying we are trying to set it up.
Apparently Europe has no ships in that area right now anyway and help from the US was turned down as May did not want to upset Iran.
That was the point, not point scoring just what I am reading and listening to.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,265
Apparently Hunt, as foreign secretary, is going cap in hand to Europe to set up a fleet to protect shipping in the gulf, after we totally ballsed up the hi jacking of our tanker.
Hope they tell us to piss off.
We have one frigate doing its best but after Iran said we want a British tanker we were at only level 3, now they have done it, we have now raised it to the highest level, too f*****g late you incompetent idiots.
Of course the government are saying that they didn't take their eyes off the ball.
Now we are asking Europe to help.
The farce gets worse.
Expect Boris to be seen in the gulf with a pedalo and a union jack.

one thing you seem to be overlooking, the event that led to this was enforcement of the EU sanctions on Syria. after a brief complaint in principle from Spain, not alot heard from EU on the matter. do you not think they have an obligation to support us? should we release the Iranian tanker and let it on its way to resolve the situation with the UK flagged ship?
 


Garry Nelson's teacher

Well-known member
May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
'Now I'm not surprised in the least at pastafarian editing posts and then quoting them, lying in a pathetic attempt to prove how clever he is.'

Sorry to sound naïve but do people (or person) really do this sort of thing? Isn't there some sort of rule or at least a convention with an associated sanction? Or is being 'called out' sanction enough? Bloody hell: we are a cricketing nation!
 


ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,730
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
'Now I'm not surprised in the least at pastafarian editing posts and then quoting them, lying in a pathetic attempt to prove how clever he is.'

Sorry to sound naïve but do people (or person) really do this sort of thing? Isn't there some sort of rule or at least a convention with an associated sanction? Or is being 'called out' sanction enough? Bloody hell: we are a cricketing nation!

I believe the etiquette and convention is just to say 'corrected for you'. Like this:

Tank fly boss walk jam nitty-gritty, you're listening to the boy from the big bad city, this is jam hot, this is jam hot.

Corrected for you.
 




Publius Ovidius

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
45,919
at home
I have no idea why people seem outraged and surprised about this tanker business. Royal Marines boarded an Iranian tanker off Gib...what did people think the Iranians were going to do. This is a civilisation that has been around before we were running around in skins and a very proud nation who regard our society as beneath them. We have no idea how to get out of this. We are too rapped up in our own petty squabbles.

If we have no support from the EU( who can blame them really) then we should let it go and get the Swedish tanker back ...I assume it is only called a British tanker because it flies under a flag of convenience.
 


ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,730
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Very different circumstances, Canning was a political maverick who was loathed by many from his own party (he even fought a duel with the foreign secretary). He was renowned for his colourful turn of phrase, mocking many fellow politicians and railing against foreigners. Several ministers resigned rather than serve under him ... we can't expect to see a politician like that again.

Oh

One big difference between George Canning and Boris Johnson - When Canning became PM, we knew how many children he actually had.
 



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