View Poll Results: If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?

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    32 3.63%
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    I have relatives in Belgium who have said that the only shop over there which they've seen empty shelves in in recent times is the M&S in Brussels.
    You didn't mention Belgium
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      Which of course is rubbish and is being shown up to be rubbish every day.

      But this still isn’t all Brexit
      I know...

      Brexit was just the avoidable bit.
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      “They’re is nothing an independent United Kingdom can’t do” - Micheal Gove

      "I will design a town in the image of your face. Round the wrinkles of your eyes my footsteps you can trace. We could promenade down infra-nasel depression. The streets of your hands will never feel a recession."
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      We also had a load of Europeans (and outside) go home because of the shutdown - I work with a couple

      You also had the pettiness of the driver testing from France and the UK

      Brexit is playing a part, but lockdowns have played a bigger part in my view

      You also have the third option - Drivers are treated like dirt
      A refreshing point of view, benefitting from being accurate and free from the radicalised nonsense usually seen on this tragic thread.

      Unfortunately we have several people continually, deliberately, conflating the effects of Covid with Brexit, as they need their daily fix of doommongering/I told you so. Without Covid, driver shortages would have been far more manageable and actually welcomed as rising wages and better conditions were only ever likely to be achieved once the constant flow of cheap labour from Europe was stopped. A similar effect can also be seen across other sectors reinforcing this point. Fortunately, as we now have more control of our borders we can adjust our immigration policies to best suit our needs rather than continually swamping the jobs market with cheap Labour. A temporary relaxation may be needed until the effects of Covid (on hiring newly qualified Uk drivers on better pay and conditions) subsides.










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      Post Brexit Britain is booming.
      https://twitter.com/shelltop8/status...235402755?s=21
      Go go global Britain.


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      If you think all this is long term Mr lever I'd suggest you're the deluded one
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      My goodness, your mind is truly locked and bolted.

      Liam Fox will be pleased....

      EU trade deal 'easiest in human history'[I]
      Coming to a free trade agreement with the EU should be "one of the easiest in human history" because our rules and laws are already the same, the international trade secretary has said.

      So will Daniel Hannan....

      "Five years from now Britain will be flourishing as never before"
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      But don't do their dirty work for them now and attempt to delude others. It's enough for you to live in your own 'sunlit uplands' alternative reality.....
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      Post Brexit Britain is booming.
      https://twitter.com/shelltop8/status...235402755?s=21
      Go go global Britain.


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      Mixed messages then.....

      Ian Ross on twitter.....
      'We (the UK) are a laughing stock and viewed as fools.....'
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      I know...

      Brexit was just the avoidable bit.
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      I know...

      Brexit was just the avoidable bit.


      I would say a great number of the reason are avoidable.

      Building proper stops for drivers
      Having a plan in place for the missed tests
      Raising the wages
      Listening to the reasons drivers are leaving
      Fix the insurance expense for new drivers which stops companies hiring them
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      I would say a great number of the reason are avoidable.

      Building proper stops for drivers
      Having a plan in place for the missed tests
      Raising the wages
      Listening to the reasons drivers are leaving
      Fix the insurance expense for new drivers which stops companies hiring them
      Good points.

      These are certainly ways to start fixing it. As per the thread title though I am focused on a choice 'we' made that contributed to causing it....

      Any suggestions for solving that part?

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