[Politics] Brexit

vegster said:

I'd emigrate if I could, but on my wages I'd only make it to The Isle of Wight, and that's even more of a shithole !

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The Rivet said:

I asked for that a couple of days ago. Addressed the message to Bozza too. No action, so I take that as a free for all. No Mods replied either. Go figure.

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vegster said:

Collective responsibility seems to have vanished ?

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The Rivet said:

Yep a majority won a referendum. For the first time in hundreds of years it was contested by the losers. Quite definitely collective democratic responsibilty has gone.

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vegster said:

I meant the Mods.

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The Clamp said:

Take a trial. You have a case for the defense and a case for the prosecution. Both present their argument and a jury considers the evidence for and against and comes to a decision based on that.
That decision is quite rightly adhered to.
However, let's say some new evidence comes to light. Perhaps somebody lied under oath, perhaps some new forensic evidence, use your imagination.
A man is in jail having been found guilty. The new evidence may reverse that decision in a retrial. It may not. But he will be granted a retrial. Or if he's really lucky and the evidence is compelling enough, the verdict may be reversed and he is set free, But at the least, he would get a retrial.

See what I'm saying? Course you do.

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Plooks said:

Where did i say that? Why put that lie out? I was referring to the brexit party, who are unequivocally racist.

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The Guardian said:

Chris Williams, an agent for the Green party in Leicester, has told the Guardian that he has seen scores of spoilt ballots, apparently forged by pro-Brexit voters.

Slogans such as ‘Brexit now’, ‘We need brexit’ and ‘We’ve already voted on this’ were scrawled next to Brexit, he said, but the electors neglected to vote for either Ukip or the Brexit party.

Williams had been checking the disputed ballots as part of his duties as an election agent, and also found one ballot which had ‘wank’ written in every single box apart from that of the Green party. The voter left a note saying ‘not wank’ for the environmentalist party which was deemed acceptable as a vote.

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The Rivet said:

You are quite amusing Clamp. Brilliant.

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The Clamp said:

The great thing about my analogy is that Leave voters can interpret that us joining the EU was the original trial and the referendum the retrial. There really is something in there for everyone.

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dingodan said:

What?

How can you justify making that accusation, let alone saying it's unequivocal.

Do you know what unequivocal means?

People like you do my nut. Ok, you don't agree with the Brexit Party. Maybe you don't like the Brexit Party. That is fair enough. But saying that they are unequivocally racist isn't fair enough, it's indefensible.

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The Clamp said:

When Farage is involved, there will always be racism. That's what he is. He has assembled a rather disagreeable rabble to join him in his quest for power. As have many parties to be fair!
What can I say? I don't like the man or his politics.
However, listening to the Westminster Hour on R4 now and the Brexit Party seem to be doing well, 7 MEP's so far. The UK's name is going to be dirt come tomorrow.

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A1X said:

The Brexit Party will come unstuck the minute they have to write down a manifesto. Really easy to say "just leave" but they represent a broad number of Leave views judging by people who have attended rallies. As with Brexit in the referendum, writing down what Brexit means ends up with alienating a chunk of the voters who supposedly want it.

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The Rivet said:

People around him with many different skins and religion.

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The Clamp said:

So? Maybe they are racist too.

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A1X said:

The Brexit Party will come unstuck the minute they have to write down a manifesto. Really easy to say "just leave" but they represent a broad number of Leave views judging by people who have attended rallies. As with Brexit in the referendum, writing down what Brexit means ends up with alienating a chunk of the voters who supposedly want it.

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The Rivet said:

Desperate and you will no doubt come back with a question. Desperate, deluded and politically dim.

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