[Politics] Brexit

Baldseagull · Feb 7, 2019

Triggaaar said:
Could they not vote on it now, and agree a period (eg, 1 month) which the UK could rejoin on current terms, agreeing to waive any veto during that period? Legally, I can't see why not.

If all 27 agreed, as they would have to with an extension of A50, I guess they could, but I can't see everyone agreeing to give us a get out of jail free card which might encourage a go at what No Deal actually feels like.

Green Cross Code Man · Feb 7, 2019

Ernest said:
Seems to me there are some on both sides so entrenched in their positions, ERG and Peoples Vote that it's going to be very difficult to have any kind of deal

People's vote is DEAD.

BensGrandad · Feb 7, 2019

Slightly OT but when we pull out of Europe with whatever deals will we be able to ignore the EU ruling on spot light bulbs and get back to having proper bulbs which show up brightly.rather than the dull 40w maximum permitted and available now.

Thunder Bolt · Feb 7, 2019

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Baldseagull · Feb 7, 2019

BensGrandad said:
Slightly OT but when we pull out of Europe with whatever deals will we be able to ignore the EU ruling on spot light bulbs and get back to having proper bulbs which show up brightly.rather than the dull 40w maximum permitted and available now.

All existing EU law will become UK law, you will have to lobby parliament to get a law changed. Or you could try these new fangled LED lights, 20W equivalent to an old 100W bulb.

Baldseagull · Feb 7, 2019

Green Cross Code Man said:
People's vote is DEAD.

It's resting.

Triggaaar · Feb 7, 2019

Baldseagull said:
If all 27 agreed, as they would have to with an extension of A50, I guess they could, but I can't see everyone agreeing to give us a get out of jail free card which might encourage a go at what No Deal actually feels like.

I wasn't suggesting it was likely, I just thought it was a legal possibility.

If we get to the end, and it looks like we will leave without a deal anyway, the EU might like to offer it as an option, as it would be best for them.

WATFORD zero · Feb 7, 2019

Green Cross Code Man said:
People's vote is DEAD.

I have to say that what this thread has been missing is a four word post with capitals in the last few hours.

It’s almost as if the grown-ups have been talking

WATFORD zero · Feb 7, 2019

Triggaaar said:
I wasn't suggesting it was likely, I just thought it was a legal possibility.

If we get to the end, and it looks like we will leave without a deal anyway, the EU might like to offer it as an option, as it would be best for them.

We won't leave with no deal Trig.

I may have mentioned this once or twice before :wink:

Patience is a virtue

Green Cross Code Man · Feb 7, 2019

Baldseagull said:
It's resting.

Lol!

WATFORD zero said:
I have to say that what this thread has been missing is a four word post with capitals in the last few hours.

It’s almost as if the grown-ups have been talking

Said in response to the king of capitals.

As you were oh mature one.

Triggaaar · Feb 7, 2019

WATFORD zero said:
We won't leave with no deal Trig.

I have always said that's the case, although I am shocked it's only 2-1. We're simply discussing the legal options that are available.

Driver8 · Feb 7, 2019

BensGrandad said:
Slightly OT but when we pull out of Europe with whatever deals will we be able to ignore the EU ruling on spot light bulbs and get back to having proper bulbs which show up brightly.rather than the dull 40w maximum permitted and available now.

www.ovoenergy.com/amp/guides/energy-guides/energy-saving-light-bulbs.html

Bold Seagull · Feb 7, 2019

BensGrandad said:
Slightly OT but when we pull out of Europe with whatever deals will we be able to ignore the EU ruling on spot light bulbs and get back to having proper bulbs which show up brightly.rather than the dull 40w maximum permitted and available now.

What is amusing is people did vote with reasoning like this!

Baker lite · Feb 7, 2019

WATFORD zero said:
We won't leave with no deal Trig.

I may have mentioned this once or twice before

Patience is a virtue

But Flash..... you only have 50 days to save the world.

On our way.

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Lincoln Imp · Feb 7, 2019

Baldseagull said:
If all 27 agreed, as they would have to with an extension of A50, I guess they could, but I can't see everyone agreeing to give us a get out of jail free card which might encourage a go at what No Deal actually feels like.

The only reason I mused out loud about it is that so much of the Hard Brexiteers' strategy seems predicated on the notion that they just need to get us over the line on March 29 and then it doesn't matter what disasters unfold. A limited-period 'return ticket' would change that dynamic. What you say about a get out of jail free card is entirely valid, although of course nothing is free in this debacle - the Leave vote has already cost us £60bn in lost growth. I agree it's unlikely though.

Blue Valkyrie · Feb 7, 2019

Green Cross Code Man said:
People's vote is DEAD.

Every option except *no deal* is DEAD.

Theresa of Borg is simply running down the clock.

It's all over.

pb21 · Feb 7, 2019

BensGrandad said:
Slightly OT but when we pull out of Europe with whatever deals will we be able to ignore the EU ruling on spot light bulbs and get back to having proper bulbs which show up brightly.rather than the dull 40w maximum permitted and available now.

On the contrary this is very much on topic.

People didn't vote for Brexit thinking on the basis of mundane things like wishing to run low on vital pharmaceuticals, losing jobs or the GFA being put at significant risk, like keeps getting banged on about. They voted to get their country back so that incandescent light bulbs can be legalised once again so that people can see.

The Clamp · Feb 7, 2019

WATFORD zero said:
We won't leave with no deal Trig.

I may have mentioned this once or twice before

Patience is a virtue

Imagine the worst possible scenario. That's what will happen. Guaranteed.

WATFORD zero · Feb 7, 2019

The Clamp said:
Imagine the worst possible scenario. That's what will happen. Guaranteed.

I believe a certain Mystic said 2.5 years ago that the three options were

1.Softest of soft Brexits
2. Another vote (either GE or referendum)
3. No deal

And that 3 was never going to happen :angel:

Although it does look like the backstop could mean a fudge to 5 years before leavers find out what they voted for, but nothing changes, it will be 1 or 2 :shrug:

Baker lite · Feb 7, 2019

WATFORD zero said:
I believe a certain Mystic said 2.5 years ago that the three options were

1.Softest of soft Brexits
2. Another vote (either GE or referendum)
3. No deal

And that 3 was never going to happen

Although it does look like the backstop could mean a fudge to 5 years before leavers find out what they voted for, but nothing changes, it will be 1 or 2

The losers vote has been torpedoed.
May’s surrender document is not going to pass through Parliament.
Legal default is that We Leave EU on 29th March 2019.

On our way.

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