- Jul 10, 2003
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[Politics] Brexit
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Baker lite
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Barren, you stupid ****. Even incapable of a simple insult
Oh that’s a bit strong .You seem an aggressive sort of fellow.
On our way.
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cunning fergus
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- Jan 18, 2009
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Scottish independence if it comes will be the express democratic will of the Scottish people, I don’t see why that is a problem. The ongoing mess in Catalonia is not a measure of how “independence” should be dealt with imo.
The key to independence in any nation is their currency, and the Nationalist movement in Scotland will always struggle to convey a vision of independence without their own currency.
This is essentially an unsolvable problem, the SNP pre the last referendum conceded that they could not afford an independent currency and the euro was deeply unpopular, albeit it was at a time when Greece was collapsing.
Scottish independence will be possible if the Scots essentially decide to go all in with the euro.
That won’t happen though because it is less independence than they have now, and also why apart from the pro EU Zealots the UK is going to be in a perpetual EU Brexit debate until we eventually leave lock stock and barrel or join the euro?
nicko31
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The Dark money is pushing for a no-deal Brexit. Who is behind it?
Why is it that funding for ads for the People's vote is completely transparent.
Yet funding for pro Brexit groups like Britain's future remains a complete mystery
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/13/dark-money-hard-brexit-targeted-ads-facebook
And yes you guess it this zombie government doing nothing in the way of legislation to stop these activities.
Still lots of unanswered questions from the frauderendum 2 and a half years ago..
Why is it that funding for ads for the People's vote is completely transparent.
Yet funding for pro Brexit groups like Britain's future remains a complete mystery
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/13/dark-money-hard-brexit-targeted-ads-facebook
And yes you guess it this zombie government doing nothing in the way of legislation to stop these activities.
Still lots of unanswered questions from the frauderendum 2 and a half years ago..
Two Professors
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If even the ever polite Gwylam has failed to answer,you can take that as nobody is interested.Next...
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The one constant in an ever changing world.You are still an utter chopper.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
I just happened to see this report briefly mentioned in The Times earlier and looked it up and found it in full. Most interesting:
Post-Brexit visa proposals could well lead to record levels of immigration
The government’s proposals in their white paper on post-Brexit immigration policy could rapidly lead to net foreign immigration of about 430,000 a year and might well approach half a million a year unless they are heavily revised. That is the conclusion of a study published today by Migration Watch UK (MW459 - Post Brexit migration levels).
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/press-release/568
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/459
The Singaporean model, here we come.
Post-Brexit visa proposals could well lead to record levels of immigration
The government’s proposals in their white paper on post-Brexit immigration policy could rapidly lead to net foreign immigration of about 430,000 a year and might well approach half a million a year unless they are heavily revised. That is the conclusion of a study published today by Migration Watch UK (MW459 - Post Brexit migration levels).
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/press-release/568
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/459
The Singaporean model, here we come.
I just happened to see this report briefly mentioned in The Times earlier and looked it up and found it in full. Most interesting:
Post-Brexit visa proposals could well lead to record levels of immigration
The government’s proposals in their white paper on post-Brexit immigration policy could rapidly lead to net foreign immigration of about 430,000 a year and might well approach half a million a year unless they are heavily revised. That is the conclusion of a study published today by Migration Watch UK (MW459 - Post Brexit migration levels).
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/press-release/568
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/459
The Singaporean model, here we come.
So everyone can come here but we won't be able to leave quite so easily as we can now?
I guess this is what "Taking back control" looks like.
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'Oh mummy,the naughty people didn't give me many likes for slagging people off.Perhaps I should have slagged off Solly March,as well?'
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Wait, so if nobody who voted Leave is that bothered about exploring other international trade opportunities, why the objection to the Irish backstop and a permanent Customs Union?
As per usual,all speculation,no facts.
Perhaps you can provide me with the facts which disprove the report? Clearly you have them to hand to make such an assertion so I'm all ears.
nicko31
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Myself and others have asked this question before concerning International trade opportunities that we cannot access via current trade arrangements.
Frankly, I am amazed that even the better leave fiction writers on here haven't come up with anything at all.
That said since I last asked this question the EU have signed trade deals with Japan and Singapore, maybe I am being a bit unfair demanding such information
- Jul 10, 2003
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Surely, you must be mistaken. Our resident expert on 'facts', thinks otherwise
Oh dear,another idiot who doesn't realise that Great Britain will have a free trade deal with Japan long before the EU finish arguing about the terms of their so-called deal.Do wake up and smell the Red Leicester
JCL666
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- Sep 23, 2011
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This is interesting. There’s a constant need in this country (which isn’t unique btw), to overhype our ability to compete or how innovative we are.
Based on this, we’re not.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018...e-the-most-innovative-countries-in-the-world/
Based on this, we’re not.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018...e-the-most-innovative-countries-in-the-world/
Lincoln Imp
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- Feb 2, 2009
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Re your final para can I just ask you to confirm that you think that Scotland, as a constituent part of the United Kingdom, currently has more freedom and independence than does a sovereign nation (such as, say, the UK) within the European Union? I've read something similar on this thread once before, possibly by Two Prof.
nicko31
Well-known member
Surely, you must be mistaken. Our resident expert on 'facts', thinks otherwise
This slide probably illustrates why even the finest Brexiteer brains on NSC cannot answer my question on International trade
The risk reward of leaving the custom union didn't add up in 2016 and adds up even less today
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More good news...
Ford warns no-deal Brexit would be 'catastrophic' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47225787
Ford warns no-deal Brexit would be 'catastrophic' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47225787