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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,573
Gods country fortnightly
The Brexit elite can't handle wind and rain, back into the private jet with his hedge fund mates

He left after one hour.

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Just 50 left when they got to Hartlepool This is the 'will of the people'.
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Stat Brother

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NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,666
West west west Sussex
One place away from dropping on to page 2.

Shame on you.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,573
Gods country fortnightly
How can a second referendum make things any worse than they are now? Nothing will change in the minds of those that want to Leave now - with or without a Deal, and nothing will change in the minds of those that want remain and believe in the European Project.

Furthermore, there are 13 million people that didn't vote that might have come to a decision now that the facts are clearer. And what about the 2.4 million young voters that have turned 18 since the referendum back in 2016 - shouldn't they get a say on the deal reached in Parliament?

Never sure about the demographic argument, oldies are always dying and new voters coming onto the electoral role.

I wouldn't stop over 70's from voting as some have voiced on here, but with it being a lifetime decision the 16 and 17 year olds should be allowed to vote, as should EU nationals who have been here more than 15 years

The most undemocratic thing to do is NOT have a public ratification of Brexit,

There were lies told on both sides

We ALL know a lot more now

We now know what Brexit means to our economic future and the unity of the United Kingdom

This is a decision for the British people, not English Tory MP's
 










Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
21,616
Brighton
If a second Brexit referendum was held how would you vote?

The most undemocratic thing to do is NOT have a public ratification of Brexit.

This.

Any decision of this scale should need two referendums so that we have an informed vote the second time round.

Q1: What would you like?
Q2: This is the Deal, do you still want it?


However, on this occasion, having a two vote process prior to negotiations would have meant we’d ended up with an awful deal.

But guess what, we got one anyway!

This argument about people disconnecting with democracy works both ways. We’re in danger of alienating the educated classes (who mainly voted remain) if we don’t ask the people to sign off the Maydeal.
 












Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
30,566
May is presently doing whatever it takes to get the DUP and ERG round to voting for her deal. They won't do it because they believe it is right but because they've been bought off or are shit scared of the consequences.

A knighthood here, a grant there, a favour returned, a promotion promised, a transgression overlooked. THIS is democracy.
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
I knew you still wouldn't take responsibility but I really don't understand why you have gone to the trouble of typing loads of statements and putting them in italics?

(Palace season over :lolol:)

Responsibility for the UK parliament overwhelmingly supporting giving the people a referendum by 544 votes to 53... the government promising to enact the result then the government/parliament screwing up the leaving process .... all my or any leave voters fault :rolleyes:
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
May is presently doing whatever it takes to get the DUP and ERG round to voting for her deal. They won't do it because they believe it is right but because they've been bought off or are shit scared of the consequences.

A knighthood here, a grant there, a favour returned, a promotion promised, a transgression overlooked. THIS is democracy.

In the same way that if there was a choice between no deal or May's deal most remainer MP's would vote for the least worst option (May's deal) from their perspective.

Enacting the referendum result is democracy. Enacting the manifesto commitments made by the party that formed the government after the 2017 General election is democracy. Ignoring or subverting either severely(possibly fatally) undermines democracy.
 




Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
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Jul 11, 2003
59,501
The Fatherland
Wind and rain play havoc with the electrics of mobility scooters

And the middle-aged pudgy men will all soon find out that their ill-fitting cheap JD Sports wear isn’t waterproof.
 






The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,499
West is BEST
Makes you wonder what kind of thicko’s Farage’s supporters are. School kids, SCHOOL KIDS can mobilise a nationwide protest on climate change. Twice. This bunch of bootless dunderheads can’t even break triple figures. Pathetic.
 






Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
It will fizzle out to nothing soon, which will be funny.
But if it doesn't or on the day this march of the racists was supposed to get to London, watch them all join up led by Farage.
These people are even more stupid than I originally thought.
 


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