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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?

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hans kraay fan club

hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
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Chandlers Ford
Westdene Seagull said:
Is he ? My understanding is that the speaker is there to uphold process and procedure - to be neutral so not support MPs or government but to ensure everything is done by the rulebook. He seems to have stretched his role on this occassion.
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Of course he is there to 'support MPs' ffs!

Its not for him to 'support' any certain group of MPs, but absolutely to ensure that the will of parliament is allowed to be known / heard. All he's done here is about process - he's stopped the government (in effect a minority group of MPs) from being allowed to play delaying games - forcing through a vote, to enable parliament to have their say. As [MENTION=13]CHAPPERS[/MENTION] has pointed out, he's merely enabled a vote, not influenced the outcome of one.
 




A1X

A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Deepest, darkest Sussex
Westdene Seagull said:
Is he ? My understanding is that the speaker is there to uphold process and procedure - to be neutral so not support MPs or government but to ensure everything is done by the rulebook. He seems to have stretched his role on this occassion.
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The Government is formed of MPs and he has the same responsibility to all of them. Unfortunately the UK has no written constitution so the rules are vague at best, however there is also a checks and balances role to be considered and the will of Parliament has a right to be heard.
 


pb21

pb21

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Apr 23, 2010
6,293
Westdene Seagull said:
Is he ? My understanding is that the speaker is there to uphold process and procedure - to be neutral so not support MPs or government but to ensure everything is done by the rulebook. He seems to have stretched his role on this occassion.
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Is that not a different way of saying the same the same thing?

By holding process and procedure to the rulebook they represent the interest of all MPs?
 


JC Footy Genius

JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Westdene Seagull said:
Is he ? My understanding is that the speaker is there to uphold process and procedure - to be neutral so not support MPs or government but to ensure everything is done by the rulebook. He seems to have stretched his role on this occassion.
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The stickers on his car might suggest he isn't as impartially minded as many would hope ....
 


neilbard

neilbard

Hedging up
Oct 8, 2013
6,245
Tyringham
A1X said:
The Government is formed of MPs and he has the same responsibility to all of them. Unfortunately the UK has no written constitution so the rules are vague at best, however there is also a checks and balances role to be considered and the will of Parliament has a right to be heard.
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The will of the people had a right to be heard, and we all know how that turned out. :shootself
 




hans kraay fan club

hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
61,279
Chandlers Ford
JC Footy Genius said:
The stickers on his car might suggest he isn't as impartially minded as many would hope ....
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Not sure what your point is? :shrug:

He is duty bound to act with impartiality in the house.

He doesn't have to BE impartial. He is allowed an opinion as much as anyone else.
 








WATFORD zero

WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
25,796
Why would anyone support further delays ?

Surely even the most fervent Brexiteer wants to find out what it was they voted for 2 and a half years ago :shrug:
 


K

Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
57,887
hassocks
neilbard said:
What good is giving her only three days? She's ****ed, but no one else in the Tories wants this cluster **** and Labour still wouldn't be able to muster up enough support to govern the UK with a majority. So we're all ****ed..
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It wouldn’t have been three days if she hadn’t delayed the vote, MPs on both sides of the house are sick of her delaying and using the clock to blackmail them into a vote to support her.
 






ManOfSussex

ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,745
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
hans kraay fan club said:
Not sure what your point is? :shrug:

He is duty bound to act with impartiality in the house.

He doesn't have to BE impartial. He is allowed an opinion as much as anyone else.
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Plus it's his wife's car as he clarified in parliament earlier when asked about it again by the straw clutching Adam Holloway MP. (The photo is from last year anyway and was covered in The Mail, Telegraph and Guido Fawkes oddball's site etc.)
 










Mellotron

Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
31,835
Brighton
CHAPPERS said:
Bit snowflaky isn't it? Moaning about a sticker on his wife's motor.
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They piss and moan about literally everything. Most sensitive bunch you ever did meet.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,151
Not one of these whining bitches in parliament offers any modicum of vision at all as to what they DO want, only what they DON'T want.

Shameful bunch of self-serving intellectually-challenged wankers.
 




ManOfSussex

ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,745
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
WATFORD zero said:
the most fervent Brexiteer
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Funny how Footy Genius rocked on up back on this thread after today's Grieve amendment. He pulled off that Times editorial from nearly 3 years ago faster than the fastest algorithm by any FSB programmer in Moscow too.

It's almost as if someone sent him into bat, or rather brought him on for some spin to tie down an end.
 




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