Losing chief scout Ewan Chester

dwayne · Sep 10, 2016

To Birmingham at the end of last season is looking very unwise right about now.

Chester was responsible for finding kayal,knockheart, goldson, rosenior, skalak etc we had excellent recruitment last season.

Now we are left with winstanley who seems to be a bit of a plodder incapable of getting deals done and seemingly incapable of finding new talent.

Thoughts ?

Mackenzie · Sep 10, 2016

Paul Winstanley?

Eeyore · Sep 10, 2016

dwayne said:
To Birmingham at the end of last season is looking very unwise right about now.

Chester was responsible for finding kayal,knockheart, goldson, rosenior, skalak etc we had excellent recruitment last season.

Now we are left with winstanley who seems to be a bit of a plodder incapable of getting deals done and seemingly incapable of finding new talent.

Thoughts ?

Incapable of getting what deals done ?

dwayne · Sep 10, 2016

North Stand Nutter said:
Paul Winstanley?

Indeed.

Duffy and norwood are looking like shockers !!

reigate · Sep 10, 2016

dwayne said:
To Birmingham at the end of last season is looking very unwise right about now.

Chester was responsible for finding kayal,knockheart, goldson, rosenior, skalak etc we had excellent recruitment last season.

Now we are left with Stephenson who seems to be a bit of a plodder incapable of getting deals done and seemingly incapable of finding new talent.

Thoughts ?

Stephenson went years ago under gus. Winstsanley (who was involved in the deals you mention )more involved now

Triggaaar · Sep 10, 2016

Get BensGrandad in. If we can afford him.

Cheeky Monkey · Sep 10, 2016

A real blow losing him, such a key part of the set-up and we subsequently had a non-event of a transfer window, but the Championship's a great division and we must embrace it for the foreseeable...and probably way beyond that.

Billy the Fish · Sep 10, 2016

It's starting to look like we've had a bad transfer window. Norwood and Sidwell don't fit into the system and slow the game down for us. Duffy isn't as good as Goldson. Nobody to compete with Baldock.

trueblue · Sep 10, 2016

Billy the Fish said:
It's starting to look like we've had a bad transfer window. Norwood and Sidwell don't fit into the system and slow the game down for us. Duffy isn't as good as Goldson. Nobody to compete with Baldock.

I think the word 'yet' might be useful in there somewhere. Don't think there's anything wrong with Sidwell or Norwood - they're a massive upgrade on JFC and Ince. They just don't have the same chemistry with Kayal as Stephens, which is perhaps not surprising as that must be our best midfield partnership for 30 odd years. If those 2 aren't playing together then it was always likely 4-4-2 would not be as good an option. As for Duffy, 2 games.

GT49er · Sep 10, 2016

trueblue said:
I think the word 'yet' might be useful in there somewhere. Don't think there's anything wrong with Sidwell or Norwood - they're a massive upgrade on JFC and Ince. They just don't have the same chemistry with Kayal as Stephens, which is perhaps not surprising as that must be our best midfield partnership for 30 odd years. If those 2 aren't playing together then it was always likely 4-4-2 would not be as good an option. As for Duffy, 2 games.

Too early yet to say we didn't have a good transfer window - it's just that it's looking like it wasn't a good one at the moment.

Stat Brother · Sep 10, 2016

I have no idea who did/does what when it comes to recruitment, and to be honest on a level I don't think it really matters.

The bottom line is MONEY.

It's clear every penny still has to be spent with a 'moneyball' justification, and, a la the Hyypia season, there just wasn't enough money to go around.

Hampster Gull · Sep 10, 2016

Brighton Lines said:
Incapable of getting what deals done ?

Exactly

Cheeky Monkey · Sep 10, 2016

Stat Brother said:
I have no idea who did/does what when it comes to recruitment, and to be honest on a level I don't think it really matters.

The bottom line is MONEY.

It's clear every penny still has to be spent with a 'moneyball' justification, and, a la the Hyypia season, there just wasn't enough money to go around.

And of course the disaster that is Derby County throwing stupid money at every recent transfer window completely undermines that argument. How can you say the quality of recruitment personnel at a club doesn't matter!?

GT49er · Sep 10, 2016

Stat Brother said:
I have no idea who did/does what when it comes to recruitment, and to be honest on a level I don't think it really matters.

The bottom line is MONEY.

It's clear every penny still has to be spent with a 'moneyball' justification, and, a la the Hyypia season, there just wasn't enough money to go around.

Not sure where £4M for Duffy fits in with Moneyball.

Stat Brother · Sep 10, 2016

GT49er said:
Not sure where £4M for Duffy fits in with Moneyball.

You mean the 24 year old, Everton scholar, who knows the Championship inside out, has played all levels of international football, and was last seen in the last 16 of the Euro's.

Granted he's been shitehouse for us, but that's not the point :lol:

GT49er · Sep 10, 2016

Stat Brother said:
Granted he's been shitehouse for us, but that's not the point

Yes, that's the one. Shame really, when he was doing so well at Blackburn.

Perhaps we should have just gone for a straight swap with GG!

GT49er · Sep 10, 2016

Brighton Lines said:
Incapable of getting what deals done ?

Calleri?
Bolanos?

.....Pritchard?

SweatyMexican · Sep 10, 2016

Triggaaar said:
Get BensGrandad in. If we can afford him.

We're not worthy of his wisdom. :angel:

NooBHA · Sep 10, 2016

dwayne said:
To Birmingham at the end of last season is looking very unwise right about now.

Chester was responsible for finding kayal,knockheart, goldson, rosenior, skalak etc we had excellent recruitment last season.

Now we are left with winstanley who seems to be a bit of a plodder incapable of getting deals done and seemingly incapable of finding new talent.

Thoughts ?

Ewan wants to retire in a year or two and in that period he wanted the opportunity to spend more time at home in Scotland. It was easier to do that based in the midlands than in Brighton so it was difficult to hold on to him but YES he is a big loss

big nuts · Sep 10, 2016

Norwood looks a decent ball player but too much of a luxury player for 4-4-2 doesn't cover enough ground, hence us losing the midfield battle.

The introduction of Duffy seems to have rattled our back four and Bruno in particular. He also looks a bit of a hoof ball merchant so he will need to adapt and quick otherwise a fit Conor Goldson keeps him out of the team all day long.

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