Guy Fawkes
The voice of treason
- Sep 29, 2007
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36816657
I wonder if it's only a matter of time now before Safe Standing will be allowed in this country
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36816657
I wonder if it's only a matter of time now before Safe Standing will be allowed in this country
yxee
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One step on the road to undoing a colossally erroneous knee jerk reaction. It's taken far too long.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
The scots are probably saying the same about us being able to drink alcohol in stadium bars.
el punal
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Hypothetically speaking, if the North Stand were adapted for safe standing I wonder what the increase would be in the Amex's capacity? 33,000 maybe?
I actually like sitting down at matches nowadays but I do recall that I loved standing when I was younger. I was at a Dynamo Dresden match last year and they have a section for ''safe standing'' and that part of the ground was absolutely ''rocking''
Guy Fawkes
The voice of treason
- Sep 29, 2007
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I'm not sure that the capacity would change as the spaces for people to stand in are usually about the same size as a seat. http://www.fsf.org.uk/campaigns/safe-standing/what-does-safe-standing-look-like/
Seats may still be needed for European competition so the seat rail may be the way they go if allowing this rather than a true terrace
All it would do is potentially cost clubs money in removing seats and possibly lower income if it's cheaper to stand rather than have a seat (clubs may not be that keen for this reason especially if they are near capacity or unlikely to see an increase in attendance as a result) however i think fans should be able to have a choice and there is a demand for standing at grounds.
GoldWithFalmer
Seaweed! Seaweed!
Would probably be the mysterious, yet,currently unobtainable,magic 35,000 that has been touted in the past that the Amex is capable to be taken too,without major overhaul,yet cannot at the moment......I would go further and say that perhaps IF we get a similar license,that it will only be for the NORTH.
Speculation on my part.
The Spurs fan is against it.
el punal
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Ouch!
Already spouted his usual patronising bollox over this subject.
Return of the Rev
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Bevendean Hillbilly
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The knee jerk reaction after 30 years of terrace violence
ROCKING
Terrace violence was one of the big attractions back in the day. Having stood on the Kop with rivers of piss running down the steps and being crushed up against the barriers whenever there was a surge was probably enough fun for me tbh.
drew
Drew
For the club to have safe standing they would have to have a change to the safety certificate, probably have to demonstrate changes to the transport provisions, get amendments to the planning permissions etc etc.
I don't necessarily agree that there should be much of a reduction on the entry fee. If people want to stand then maybe they should be the ones that foot the bill for any conversion costs.
- Jul 7, 2003
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Problem for us is that it requires a change in the law, whereas they operate under a different legal system in Scotland.
I don't imagine drafting new legislation regarding standing at English football matches is high on the Government's list of priorities right now, unfortunately. I also think there may not be a great appetite amongst English clubs for it to happen, primarily because they'd have to drop ticket prices for standing admissions, which in many cases- and regrettably I very much include the Albion in this- they won't want to even contemplate.
drew
Drew
Really? Seems to have worked. Hardly a knee jerk reaction. The first thing were the fences and that didn't work.
GoldWithFalmer
Seaweed! Seaweed!
Agree with all but the last bit....think many people would be willing to pay for the chance to stand.
- Jul 7, 2003
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But I don't think you'd get substantially more people coming to football matches (who aren't already coming). It'd just be the same people who already go, in the main, only paying less for the privilege. Which is why the clubs won't be keen: the only possible gain for them would be in terms of atmosphere.
I suppose clubs who are struggling to attract crowds might be more up for it: it might appeal to former fans who are staying away. And I guess if you're a club who regularly sells out games, then the chance to increase capacity and thus get more people inside the ground might be worth it.
But for clubs like the Albion, who already have decent crowds, who have a stadium regularly more than three quarters full, but not quite to capacity, it wouldn't make financial sense as far as I can see.
studio150
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So lets assume the cost to convert the North Stand is £500,000 (only used to illustrate) would there be enough people to pay for this cost if the Albion said we aren't going to pay for it,b ut if the fans raise 100% of the cost we will, and the reduction in ticket price is only the difference between ticket prices is keep the same income
kevo
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- Mar 8, 2008
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I remember when the Falmer plans were first being considered (when we were at Withdean or maybe even Gillingham) and Martin Perry saying how much the club owed its survival in 1997 to the support from the Goldstone north stand and that having a standing section at the stadium would therefore be a priority.
I'd love to see it happen. As you say, for one thing it would increase capacity and the atmosphere would radically improve. Here's hoping...