Was Gus right (England) ?

clapham_gull · Jun 28, 2016

I seem to recall from a visit he made to SOL (I think) when asked about managing England he said 'Itsss NOT complicated...."

Mistake was that England managers simply pick the best players from the respective Premier League clubs and fail to bond them together into a team.

Can't find the correct player to play your way in the Premier League - simply look below into the Championship.

He quite forthright about it and seemed a pragmatic solution to the lack of quality English players in the top division.

Once thing you can't take away from Gus was his ability to take quite average players and make them play another way. Getting them to play yet ANOTHER way, well that might be a problem...

But is his central point correct ?

skipper734 · Jun 28, 2016

For instance, is there no English born player that can deliver balls from set plays as Knocky does, other than the number nine?

Mr Smggles · Jun 28, 2016

skipper734 said:
For instance, is there no English born player that can deliver balls from set plays as Knocky does, other than the number nine?

Kane couldn't either!

Bladders · Jun 28, 2016

A good start would be for an England manager to stop shoe horning in his players in positions they do not play for their clubs.

How many more times will we see centre forwards playing out wide?

Ernest · Jun 28, 2016

Would make a good England manager

maltaseagull · Jun 28, 2016

Ernest said:
Would make a good England manager

Until a bigger country started looking for a new manager?

beorhthelm · Jun 28, 2016

clapham_gull said:
Mistake was that England managers simply pick the best players from the respective Premier League clubs and fail to bond them together into a team.

theres something to that. the pundits were making a point about systems or style last night and i think the problem with this tournement and Hodgeson in general is he never settled a system, and played around the players available to a style that wasnt his natural cautious, organised style. its made for some great football in the friendlies and the group games were we had great domination, it had core weakness that the players didnt know what to do defensivly and for all the flair they couldnt breakdown sides.

would the media stand for it? needs a very thick skinned manager to leave top players behind because they dont fit a system, especially if a result goes against them. does seem to be something other nations do, leave incredible players out, or if they dont perform at internationals, drop them.

el punal · Jun 28, 2016

maltaseagull said:
Until a bigger country started looking for a new manager?

San Marino?

Cowfold Seagull · Jun 28, 2016

Bladders said:
A good start would be for an England manager to stop shoe horning in his players in positions they do not play for their clubs.

How many more times will we see centre forwards playing out wide?

I agree, (about this point, not your views on Brexit, although that's for another thread!). Seeing Sturridge struggle out on the wing was cringeworthy.

The likes of Jack Wilshere should never have been on the plane having played so little football during the season, never mind being picked to actually start games.

Our number nine and target man being our regular corner taker.

Raheem Sterling starting the game last night, having had such an abysmal tournament thus far.

Jamie Vardy not starting more games. Rashford not getting more minutes on the pitch despite our lack of goals in the tournament.

The list of mistakes made by Woy and his coaching staff goes on.

Cowfold Seagull · Jun 28, 2016

With Hodgson insisting on starting games with two wingers, why on earth did he only take one man accustomed to playing that role?

What made it even worse, was that Raheem Sterling's performances were way below par.

Dirk Lehmann's Python · Jun 28, 2016

He was probably putting himself out there for the job. Slimeball prick.

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skipper734 · Jun 28, 2016

Mr Smggles said:
Kane couldn't either!

I was going to add that, but was overcome by lethargy.

Blue Valkyrie · Jun 28, 2016

Gus 4 England.

Stat Brother · Jun 28, 2016

Is there any subject on NSC that can't be related to Poyet?

Thunder Bolt · Jun 28, 2016

beorhthelm said:
theres something to that. the pundits were making a point about systems or style last night and i think the problem with this tournement and Hodgeson in general is he never settled a system, and played around the players available to a style that wasnt his natural cautious, organised style. its made for some great football in the friendlies and the group games were we had great domination, it had core weakness that the players didnt know what to do defensivly and for all the flair they couldnt breakdown sides.

would the media stand for it? needs a very thick skinned manager to leave top players behind because they dont fit a system, especially if a result goes against them. does seem to be something other nations do, leave incredible players out, or if they dont perform at internationals, drop them.

Sir Alf Ramsey was panned by the press for doing just that.

Cowfold Seagull · Jun 28, 2016

Stat Brother said:
Is there any subject on NSC that can't be related to Poyet?

Yes Brexit was down to him you know.

Cowfold Seagull · Jun 28, 2016

Thunder Bolt said:
Sir Alf Ramsey was panned by the press for doing just that.

Not just Sir Alf either, it has been a tactic adopted by many Enland managers over the years.

Must be a peculiarly English disease.

clapham_gull · Jun 28, 2016

Stat Brother said:
Is there any subject on NSC that can't be related to Poyet?

Probably not. I thought back to that considering that Burnley would have given Iceland a game.

Stat Brother · Jun 28, 2016

Cowfold Seagull said:
Yes Brexit was down to him you know.

My garden is a little overgrown, I just keep wondering 'what would Poyet do?'

maltaseagull · Jun 28, 2016

Stat Brother said:
Is there any subject on NSC that can't be related to Poyet?

Brexit?

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