The Jeremy Corbyn thread

Harry Wilson's tackle said:

Wow. Class war. That attitude will make labour unelectable for ever. No compromise with the electrorate. I would rather have a labour lite government than a tory one. You clearly would rather have a tory government than have anyone who is not proper working class in the labour party. I genuinely dispair. And what would you do with me, a middle class person? Melt me down for glue?

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Buzzer said:

An absolute must-read for anyone who thinks that Corbyn is either effective, considerate or part-way up to the job.

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GoldWithFalmer said:

http://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2016/07/14/jeremy-corbyns-id-card-found-at-brighton-station/

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Ernest said:

Another Red Tory's past comes back to haunt him

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/07/entirely-fake-owen-smith/

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cunning fergus said:

You really need to get out more if you think my sentiment is a exhortation for class war.

Whilst class is important factor in my own political ideology, if you are middle class and want to support labour that's fine, however Labour and the Labour movement was not created to benefit the middle class. You lot don't need protection, your interests are not being sold out.

You don't care about protecting working class pay or their more general social conditions, and if you did you would advocate control/regulation of the labour market.

You don't, you want free market capitalism courtesy of the EU. It's why you and the other Tristrams' Lucianas' and Harriets' in the Labour Party are the problem, you want what the middle class want.

That's why you voted remain and working class area voted leave. I don't want you to be turned into glue, that's to good for Tories.

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Ernest said:

Toby Perkins is a TORY so what

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Buzzer said:

Did you know that Corbyn still hasn't made an official statement about the new Tory leader? Or that there hasn't been a single Labour press release or statement on anything since before Brexit?

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beorhthelm said:

is that true? even with the Trident vote, and events abroad, no press? Corbyn was on BBC catching a pokemon, so he clearly has his finger on the pulse of the nation.

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Buzzer said:

A member of the Labour Party all his adult life, a Labour councillor from 2003-2011, ex-director of a co-operative and Labour MP since 2010 but your response (as always) is...he's a Tory. Brilliant analysis!

As Nick Cohen wrote, the best plant the Tories have got in the Labour Party is hardline Stalinist Seamus Milne. Did you know that Corbyn still hasn't made an official statement about the new Tory leader? Or that there hasn't been a single Labour press release or statement on anything since before Brexit?

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

It is utterly embarrassing. I fully expect Corbyn's first leaderly statement to be 'retreat'. Or 'Surrender!'. He has the heart of Arnold Judas Rimmer. And I am a lifelong labour voter.

I have a very long email from my brother, who lives in Portslade, from the local labour MP. It is a very sad endigtment of Corbyn. Best I not post it. Enough said

HWT

ps I fully expect the Momentum crew on here to forward this fact to the brick luzzers

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synavm said:

To be honest, from what you're saying, I think you're a revolutionary socialist rather than a democratic Socialist/Social Democrat, and I don't think you'll find the solutions you're after in the Labour Party, even with Corbyn.

Now just to pick you up on the Labour Government , here are a list of Tony Blair's achievements in office:

1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.

2. Low mortgage rates.

3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.

4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.

5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.

6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.

7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.

8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.

9. Employment was at its highest level ever.

10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.

11. 85,000 more nurses.

12. 32,000 more doctors.

13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.

14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.

15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.

16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.

17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.

18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities in 2007.

19. Restored city-wide government to London.

20. Record number of students in higher education.

21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.

22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.

23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.

25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.

27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.

28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.

29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.

30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.

31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.

32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.

33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.

34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.

35. Banned fox hunting.

36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.

37. Free TV licences for over-75s.

38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.

39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.

40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.

41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.

42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.

43. Free eye test for over 60s.

44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.

45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.

46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.

47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.

48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.

49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.

50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.

Now, granted, Blair was FAR from perfect and the Tories might have pursued some of his policies, but to just say he pushed precisely the same Neo-Liberal policies as Thatcher is just rewriting history.

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