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Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
16,560
Fiveways

As a committed Murdoch-loather, I was stunned by this, perhaps he's mellowing as he approaches his tenth decade or Jerry might even be sprinkling stardust in his direction.
But this is utterly unexpected. Not so sure about your view on the winning side; it's The Sun which likes to be on the winning side, and has been in GEs ever since its 'It was The Sun wot won it' response.
Either way now, Murdoch fans can claim he's won, his haters that he's lost.
 


Tricky Dicky

New member
Jul 27, 2004
13,558
Sunny Shoreham
As a committed Murdoch-loather, I was stunned by this, perhaps he's mellowing as he approaches his tenth decade or Jerry might even be sprinkling stardust in his direction.
But this is utterly unexpected. Not so sure about your view on the winning side; it's The Sun which likes to be on the winning side, and has been in GEs ever since its 'It was The Sun wot won it' response.
Either way now, Murdoch fans can claim he's won, his haters that he's lost.

There are Murdoch fans ? Blimey.
 


HCxUK

Well-known member
Apr 18, 2014
814
It's a purely business decision from Murdoch. The majority of the Times' readership will back remain so it wouldn't make sense otherwise.
 






The Birdman

New member
Nov 30, 2008
6,313
Haywards Heath
Just spoken to local owner of bathroom sales and fitting shop who said he will be glad when the vote is over as the uncertainty has affected his business.
 








Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
Just spoken to local owner of bathroom sales and fitting shop who said he will be glad when the vote is over as the uncertainty has affected his business.

Perhaps he's worried his business will go down the drain if we remain, could sink without trace. A lot of businesses have been running hot and cold whilst this referendum has been going on, the sooner we get that shower in the EU out the better, they are a complete waste.
 




5ways

Well-known member
Sep 18, 2012
2,217
Establishment paper (grudgingly) backs Remain shock. :ohmy:

"The Times may once have been regarded as part of the establishment. If so, those times are past. We will take a maverick view where logic and the evidence support it. We have considered every aspect of the European argument with the seriousness and scepticism it deserves. We respect the arguments of those who would have Britain leave, but on balance we believe Britain would be better off leading a renewed drive for reform within the EU rather than starting afresh outside it. By the same token a win for Remain followed by a limp return to business as usual would be a dismal outcome."

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/r...w?shareToken=1516717a913edfa20d09f27f111bdfe2

Brits don't quit.
 






Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
"The Times may once have been regarded as part of the establishment. If so, those times are past. We will take a maverick view where logic and the evidence support it. We have considered every aspect of the European argument with the seriousness and scepticism it deserves. We respect the arguments of those who would have Britain leave, but on balance we believe Britain would be better off leading a renewed drive for reform within the EU rather than starting afresh outside it. By the same token a win for Remain followed by a limp return to business as usual would be a dismal outcome."

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/r...w?shareToken=1516717a913edfa20d09f27f111bdfe2

Brits don't quit.

I see Field Marshall Lord Guthrie has QUIT the Remain camp over fears of the EU creating it's own army-isn't the former head of the British Army British enough for you?
 


joeinbrighton

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Nov 20, 2012
1,853
Brighton
Murdoch's ownership of both papers is really the only common ground between The Sun and The Times. In terms of the demographic profile of their respective readerships, the 2 newspapers are poles apart.

More than anything though, it is a business decision based upon their respective competitors. Although the circulation war is no longer of huge relevance compared to the 1980s, The Sun's main rival is The Mirror which one would assume is backing Remain. Given the readership of The Sun and the Mirror's position, it was always going to back Brexit.

But it is different for The Times because its main competitor among the broadsheets has always traditionally been the Telegraph. The Telegraph is a staunchly right wing newspaper and as such it is going to be strongly on the side of Brexit. The Times is a Conservative newspaper but is more along the lines of a modern, One Nation Conservative publication and so less harsh in tone. It wants to set itself up as distinct from the Telegraph and so consequently they have gone with the opposite viewpoint to them.

It's not as surprising as it might first appear.
 




Albumen

Don't wait for me!
Jan 19, 2010
11,495
Brighton - In your face
Perhaps he's worried his business will go down the drain if we remain, could sink without trace. A lot of businesses have been running hot and cold whilst this referendum has been going on, the sooner we get that shower in the EU out the better, they are a complete waste.

What are you on about?
 


5ways

Well-known member
Sep 18, 2012
2,217
I see Field Marshall Lord Guthrie has QUIT the Remain camp over fears of the EU creating it's own army-isn't the former head of the British Army British enough for you?

Very happy to play 'listen to the expert'.

My go: Isn't Mark Carney the Governor of the Bank of England enough for you?
 








Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
Perhaps he's worried his business will go down the drain if we remain, could sink without trace. A lot of businesses have been running hot and cold whilst this referendum has been going on, the sooner we get that shower in the EU out the better, they are a complete waste.

The Brexit side are like a busted flush.
The sooner they pull the plug the better.
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Very happy to play 'listen to the expert'.

My go: Isn't Mark Carney the Governor of the Bank of England enough for you?

Oh is Carney British now then?
 



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