Have we enough leaders in the squad ?

chaileyjem · Jun 10, 2016

Last night listened to Chris Waddle rant at great length about how the current England squad team lacks the experience but more importantly the leaders in 1990 or 1996 - ie: the likes of Paul Ince, Seaman, Tony Adams, Shearer & Sheringham to succeed.

Perhaps he's just being nostalgic. Even though we had those characters, England still didn't win the tournament in 1990 or 1996 anyway.

But given that for us we've now lost Greer, Calde, Zamora and to a certain extent Sidwell then do we have enough leaders in the dressing room and a squad with that mix of experience as well as youth to get us through a 46 game season. We suffered from Dunk's common sense going missing a few times last season, and having to rely on 20 year old Wilson up front was not ideal in the run in.

We'll need a new captain for starters.

But who are our leaders ? Who is organising and talking on the pitch and in the dressing room ?
Stockdale ? Rosenior ? Bruno ? Stephens ?

And does it really matter if Stockdale isn't shouting at his back four after a defensive mishap ?

How many thirtysomethings with presence do we need to consider incoming this summer to ensure we have the right character off the pitch as well as on?

Mellotron · Jun 10, 2016

King Kayal, obviously - when you watch the game it's quite clear already that he is the leader. Then Stockdale, Goldson, Stephens all have some of those qualities. Could do with one more old head I reckon, maybe Sidwell.

stss30 · Jun 10, 2016

Kayal and Bruno immediately spring to mind, Goldson is also future captain material imo, doesn't take any shit.

Nathan · Jun 10, 2016

Hemed could be an interesting one next season. He has a year of championship football under his belt and should be confident in front of this group of players. Not saying he should be captain or anything, but hopefully he can lead the front line.

Skaville · Jun 10, 2016

I can't bear that whining windbag Chris Waddle and his partner in crimes of footballing negativity, Danny mills. It seems that 5 live keep them locked up for a fortnight, baiting them with tales of their fairly poor performances for England (yes I know about 1990, but Waddle rarely delivered for England), then roll them out to spout their non stop criticisms of everything three lions related.

What makes this even worse is this time, I reluctantly agree with them. No system, no clear starting eleven, no leaders, no partnerships, players playing out of position, no defence and no width. I'm already anticipating a disappointing Euros, but that's just where we are as a side. It's not a golden generation, not yet at least. It's the youngest, most inexperienced squad and it needs time (and better management IMO).

I just wish the press could be balanced and realistic rather than either making us out to contenders or totally destroying them. Waddle whinged a lot about the press in All Played Out, but he's the worst of the lot now.

Collingburnian · Jun 10, 2016

Kayal, no question. He shows leadership qualities every minute of every game.

Machiavelli · Jun 10, 2016

Skaville said:
I can't bear that whining windbag Chris Waddle and his partner in crimes of footballing negativity, Danny mills. It seems that 5 live keep them locked up for a fortnight, baiting them with tales of their fairly poor performances for England (yes I know about 1990, but Waddle rarely delivered for England), then roll them out to spout their non stop criticisms of everything three lions related.

What makes this even worse is this time, I reluctantly agree with them. No system, no clear starting eleven, no leaders, no partnerships, players playing out of position, no defence and no width. I'm already anticipating a disappointing Euros, but that's just where we are as a side. It's not a golden generation, not yet at least. It's the youngest, most inexperienced squad and it needs time (and better management IMO).

I just wish the press could be balanced and realistic rather than either making us out to contenders or totally destroying them. Waddle whinged a lot about the press in All Played Out, but he's the worst of the lot now.

Yes, I've heard too much from Mills and Waddle on R5L of late. Last night Mills (and may Waddle?) was on with Jenas, who was trying to fathom out what they were saying. Jenas is impressive in my view.

Machiavelli · Jun 10, 2016

We've got loads:
Stockdale, Bruno, Rosenior, Kayal and Hemed for sure, probably Dunk and Goldson too.

Skaville · Jun 10, 2016

Machiavelli said:
Yes, I've heard too much from Mills and Waddle on R5L of late. Last night Mills (and may Waddle?) was on with Jenas, who was trying to fathom out what they were saying. Jenas is impressive in my view.

Yes, Jenas was the voice of reason, stuck between the twin pillars of bile. Waddle is just full of shit. He slated Belgium on 5live last night, then I saw he'd tipped them on the BBC website.

Raskolnikov · Jun 10, 2016

Apparently Ankergren has a massive voice in the dressingroom and is a key motivational figure - probably why he has been kept on yet again, much to some peoples dismay

Skaville · Jun 10, 2016

Raskolnikov said:
Apparently Ankergren has a massive voice in the dressingroom and is a key motivational figure - probably why he has been kept on yet again, much to some peoples dismay

I find that quite bizarre given he constantly has an expression that makes me think he is close to tears!

You can't judge a book by its cover I suppode

Raskolnikov · Jun 10, 2016

Skaville said:
I find that quite bizarre given he constantly has an expression that makes me think he is close to tears!

You can't judge a book by its cover I suppode

Naturally it is just hearsay but it was told to me via by dad by Darren Balkham, of whom he is a personal friend

Postman Pat · Jun 10, 2016

Brighton do, England don't.

knocky1 · Jun 10, 2016

Postman Pat said:
Brighton do, England don't.

Might as well have Brighton nearly, England do for summer 2016. Nothing to lose.

BensGrandad · Jun 10, 2016

WA was saying all last season we lack a player to get into the refs ear to unsettle him.

GoldWithFalmer · Jun 10, 2016

we have sidwell now so that's a step forwards...

dejavuatbtn · Jun 10, 2016

Form wasn't so good when Bruno wasn't there as captain.

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