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CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
44,771
Because Philip Green was a working for the government not long ago?

Thieving ****er should be in prison.
 


franks brother

Well-known member
And while the wealthy bitch about how many million the other shouldn’t have had, 11’000 staff lose their livelihood. These job losses are just collateral damage in the battle of the rich to be become richer
 






vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,886
Am I the only one wondering why the police haven't arrested and charged anyone?

Read Private Eye and you will find Mr Chappell was a disaster waiting to happen and Mr Green couldn't believe his luck when he took BHS off his hands. as others have said, the 11,000 odd staff don't count for anything I'm afraid.
 


Leekbrookgull

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2005
16,245
Leek
Can someone please explain (and keep it simple) how almost £600 m from the pension fund is missing/taking-out ?
 


severnside gull

Well-known member
May 16, 2007
24,540
By the seaside in West Somerset
Can someone please explain (and keep it simple) how almost £600 m from the pension fund is missing/taking-out ?

It was "misappropriated"
In any other context you would say stolen but when you're a paragon of all the Tory virtues a nod is as good as a wink.
 






Bob!

Coffee Buyer
Jul 5, 2003
11,114
Can someone please explain (and keep it simple) how almost £600 m from the pension fund is missing/taking-out ?

It was "misappropriated"
In any other context you would say stolen but when you're a paragon of all the Tory virtues a nod is as good as a wink.


Why is it not a criminal offence to not keep the pension fund fully funded?
 






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,287
Can someone please explain (and keep it simple) how almost £600 m from the pension fund is missing/taking-out ?

Why is it not a criminal offence to not keep the pension fund fully funded?

because final salary or even many defined benefit pensions are not sustainable, especially with the current interest rates (indirectly pushing down bond prices). simply they have to payout more than the employers and employees ever put in. getting a penion fund back into the black is often why companies have huge redundancies, because it reduces the pension liabilities. many companies are essentially bankrupt if you count their pension fund liabilities.

whats most curious in such situations as BHS is why the pension fund doesnt buy the business as a managment buyout. one can assume the trustees would consider this and reject it as the company isnt sustainable.
 












alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
because final salary or even many defined benefit pensions are not sustainable, especially with the current interest rates (indirectly pushing down bond prices). simply they have to payout more than the employers and employees ever put in. getting a penion fund back into the black is often why companies have huge redundancies, because it reduces the pension liabilities. many companies are essentially bankrupt if you count their pension fund liabilities.

whats most curious in such situations as BHS is why the pension fund doesnt buy the business as a managment buyout. one can assume the trustees would consider this and reject it as the company isnt sustainable.
Low interest rates put bond prices up not down , they have a direct effect on bond prices , not indirect, bond prices will go down when rates finally start to go up.
 


The Andy Naylor Fan Club

Well-known member
Aug 31, 2012
5,146
Right Here, Right Now
Coming across as a patronising bugger and trying to control the interview/committee. Also has quite a poor memory when it comes to some important questions!
 




CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
44,771
Turns out he knows absolutely nothing about the books of the companies his wife owns and had nothing to do with the running of BHS between 2000 and 2012!
 




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