Soccerball rules question

Easy 10 · Apr 29, 2016

Imagine we get a throw in (wild, I know).

Is there anything in the rules that would prevent a player (or two, or three) lifting a team-mate up in the air "rugby line-out" style in order to flick the ball on ? I don't reckon there is, and I think we should TRY it on Monday.

Bruno gets a throw adjacent to the penalty area and lobs in into the box. Hemed, and Stephens hoist Baldock up at the near post for an unchallenged aerial flick-on, Knocky steams in at the far post and SMACKS it home. Derby players are frozen there, dumbstruck, appealing to the ref in full-on WTF ?? mode - but there's no foul. We've done nothing against the rules.

Lets do it. It'd be legendary.

Chinman3000 · Apr 29, 2016

Easy 10 said:
Imagine we get a throw in (wild, I know).

Is there anything in the rules that would prevent a player (or two, or three) lifting a team-mate up in the air "rugby line-out" style in order to flick the ball on ? I don't reckon there is, and I think we should TRY it on Monday.

Bruno gets a throw adjacent to the penalty area and lobs in into the box. Hemed, and Stephens hoist Baldock up at the near post for an unchallenged aerial flick-on, Knocky steams in at the far post and SMACKS it home. Derby players are frozen there, dumbstruck, appealing to the ref in full-on WTF ?? mode - but there's no foul. We've done nothing against the rules.

Lets do it. It'd be legendary.

EDIT - mis-read the question!

Prince Monolulu · Apr 29, 2016

Not exactly Ernie Hunt and Willie Carr is it?

Probably comes under ungentlemanly conduct.

DTES · Apr 29, 2016

In America - if you care what they think - this is listed as an example of Unsporting Behaviour in their referees' guide. Assuming the same applies over here, Hemed & Stephens would find themselves booked and the Albion with no goal.

Easy 10 · Apr 29, 2016

Prince Monolulu said:
Not exactly Ernie Hunt and Willie Carr is it?

Probably comes under ungentlemanly conduct.

How is that ungentlemanly ?

I'd call it INVENTIVE. Maybe even AUDACIOUS.

Prince Monolulu · Apr 29, 2016

How's about, the ball goes through to Stockers: He shuvs it up his jumper, runs the length of the pitch in the middle of a scrum/huddle from the other guys and runs not just into the goal up the other end but right through it?

Notters · Apr 29, 2016

No, there are no rules, only laws.

Someone had to say it.

Bladders · Apr 29, 2016

What if say Hemed gets the ball, and rest of the Albion team encircle him with arms locked.

They then move as one towards the opposition goal, the oppo cant tackle Hemed without manhandling part of the circle to get at him.

If they do then fee kick and carry on/continue with encirclement tactic.

Could work.....

thisistips · Apr 29, 2016

if that is ungentlemanly, what was messi's penalty pass?

Notters · Apr 29, 2016

Bladders said:
What if say Hemed gets the ball, and rest of the Albion team encircle him with arms locked.

They then move as one towards the opposition goal, the oppo cant tackle Hemed without manhandling part of the circle to get at him.

If they do then fee kick and carry on/continue with encirclement tactic.

Could work.....

Obstruction surely?

GingerBeerMan · Apr 29, 2016

Easy 10 said:
Imagine we get a throw in (wild, I know).

Is there anything in the rules that would prevent a player (or two, or three) lifting a team-mate up in the air "rugby line-out" style in order to flick the ball on ? I don't reckon there is, and I think we should TRY it on Monday.

Bruno gets a throw adjacent to the penalty area and lobs in into the box. Hemed, and Stephens hoist Baldock up at the near post for an unchallenged aerial flick-on, Knocky steams in at the far post and SMACKS it home. Derby players are frozen there, dumbstruck, appealing to the ref in full-on WTF ?? mode - but there's no foul. We've done nothing against the rules.

Lets do it. It'd be legendary.

What about for a corner? Loft a high ball in and get Kayal to lift Hemed up to head it home.

Bladders · Apr 29, 2016

Notters said:
Obstruction surely?

A player doesn't have to move out of the way so the oppo can tackle his team mate. Its his ground.

Just like the oppo could have 11 men on the line blocking the goal for 90 minutes if they wanted too.

Bladders · Apr 29, 2016

A bit like Arsenal do here at the 2:00 point but with the ball carrier totally surrounded.

Prince Monolulu · Apr 29, 2016

Creative thinking outside the box, or maybe in it?

Acker79 · Apr 29, 2016

Bladders said:
A player doesn't have to move out of the way so the oppo can tackle his team mate. Its his ground.

Just like the oppo could have 11 men on the line blocking the goal for 90 minutes if they wanted too.

But in this scenario, the players would be moving with the intent of blocking opponents from getting to Hemed, not simply 'standing their ground'.

Bladders · Apr 29, 2016

Acker79 said:
But in this scenario, the players would be moving with the intent of blocking opponents from getting to Hemed, not simply 'standing their ground'.

But they wouldn't be making a direct move to block a player, they would just be moving forward. No different if they were running forward singularly as usual.

The oppo would have to go round a player but as theres no entrance to the circle he cant get in, and no one in the circle is making a direct move to block him either.

studio150 · Apr 29, 2016

Think it would fall under unsporting behaviour and the goal would be disallowed.

I seem to recall Match of the Day highlighting this many many years ago when Gordon McQueen had a goal disallowed for using a teammate for leverage

MattBackHome · Apr 29, 2016

Easy 10 said:
How is that ungentlemanly ?

I'd call it INVENTIVE. Maybe even AUDACIOUS.

I thought rugby was the gentleman's game? If so this is probably the most gentlemanly act possible, apart from unmentionable high jinks and songs about the queen.

Prince Monolulu · Apr 29, 2016

MattBackHome said:
I thought rugby was the gentleman's game? If so this is probably the most gentlemanly act possible, apart from unmentionable high jinks and songs about the queen.

...not forgetting their party trick

Bladders · Apr 29, 2016

What about if Kayal squeezed the ball tight, high and tight between his thighs and hopped all the way into the oppositions goal net.

They couldn't kick it out of his thighs as it would be a studs showing high tackle.

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