Would you go out of your way to help the police catch his killer or do you think he had it coming? Surprisingly it took forensics four days to establish he'd been murdered even though he'd been shot in the chest "approximately" six times!! They initially thought his stitches from recent surgery had burst. They wouldn't even get away with that storyline in Silent Witness!
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John "Goldfinger" Palmer. Would you help catch his killer? Crimewatch Tonight
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alfredmizen
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He would be if someone had wandered in while he was doing it.
Bombadier Botty
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His trouble and strife's quite middle class!
Raleigh Chopper
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If they ever find Basil, then they have also probably caught the person who shot him.
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"John Palmer has made mistakes in life" 
glasfryn
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"John Palmer has made mistakes in life"
yes 300m of them most of which was not his
live by it die by it ........................just a little karma
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How depressing re that Russian woman who killed the German cyclist.
I bet the investigating team felt like jacking it all in when some gullible judge gave her her passport back
I bet the investigating team felt like jacking it all in when some gullible judge gave her her passport back
Crispy Ambulance
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Missed most of it but did they mention whether or not the Acourt shown on the rogues gallery was related to those acquitted of the Stephen Lawrence murder?
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Yes, they did, and yes, it was him.
Crispy Ambulance
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Ah, thanks, an unusual surname which has stuck in the memory. What are they after him for now?
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Wanted for drug supply, or cultivation, was something like that I think.
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Point of note: Jamie Acourt was actually one of those acquitted of the Stephen Lawrence murder, alongside his brother Neil (so, more than just a relative of one of the the accused).
This is from a Daily Telegraph article on Jamie Acourt in 2012:
Unlike the other original Stephen Lawrence suspects, Jamie Acourt has managed to rise above his past and has forged an enviable life for himself.
Now 35, the father of one lives with his girlfriend Terri Dean in a £250,000 tasteful Victorian semi-detached house in Sidcup, around three miles from where the killing took place.
While he does not work, his girlfriend is the director of a successful children’s clothing company affording them all the trappings of a well-heeled middle class lifestyle.
He drives a smart black Mercedes car and wears the latest designer label clothing, blending in easily with the young professionals who live in the area.
And this from this week:
The Met Police has launched a new appeal for information about two men wanted over a £4m conspiracy to supply cannabis, one of whom is former Stephen Lawrence murder suspect Jamie Acourt.
Mr Acourt, 39, from Bexley, and Henry Doe, 32, from Richmond upon Thames, are both wanted for questioning on drugs offences.
Nine men have already been charged in connection with the investigation.
Another three men and one woman have been arrested and remain on bail.
Mr Doe and Mr Acourt were featured on the BBC's Crimewatch on Thursday, with the police saying Mr Acourt was known to frequent the south east London and Kent areas.
He also has links to southern Spain and was last seen in the Eltham area on 1 February.
Mr Doe is known to visit south-west London and areas of Surrey.
Earlier this month, Mr Acourt's brother Neil Acourt - also a former suspect in Stephen Lawrence's murder - pleaded guilty to plotting to supply drugs.
This is from a Daily Telegraph article on Jamie Acourt in 2012:
Unlike the other original Stephen Lawrence suspects, Jamie Acourt has managed to rise above his past and has forged an enviable life for himself.
Now 35, the father of one lives with his girlfriend Terri Dean in a £250,000 tasteful Victorian semi-detached house in Sidcup, around three miles from where the killing took place.
While he does not work, his girlfriend is the director of a successful children’s clothing company affording them all the trappings of a well-heeled middle class lifestyle.
He drives a smart black Mercedes car and wears the latest designer label clothing, blending in easily with the young professionals who live in the area.
And this from this week:
The Met Police has launched a new appeal for information about two men wanted over a £4m conspiracy to supply cannabis, one of whom is former Stephen Lawrence murder suspect Jamie Acourt.
Mr Acourt, 39, from Bexley, and Henry Doe, 32, from Richmond upon Thames, are both wanted for questioning on drugs offences.
Nine men have already been charged in connection with the investigation.
Another three men and one woman have been arrested and remain on bail.
Mr Doe and Mr Acourt were featured on the BBC's Crimewatch on Thursday, with the police saying Mr Acourt was known to frequent the south east London and Kent areas.
He also has links to southern Spain and was last seen in the Eltham area on 1 February.
Mr Doe is known to visit south-west London and areas of Surrey.
Earlier this month, Mr Acourt's brother Neil Acourt - also a former suspect in Stephen Lawrence's murder - pleaded guilty to plotting to supply drugs.
glasfryn
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it never ceases to amaze me how many sex offenders get bail....................and some on there tonight did not turn up at court
Crispy Ambulance
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Thanks for that. Telegraph article is naive at best!
At the time of the original trial (and acquittal), the Lawrences carried themselves with tremendous dignity although they must have been churning inside. The lasting memory from the acquittal is of some of the accused (possibly the brothers) steaming out of the court wearing sunglasses and gobbing at all and sundry. Classy! No real surprise that they've continued to be of interest ever since!
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Worth £300 million but the reward offered by the family only £50,000. Is there a cap on rewards allowed to be offered?
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I imagine their notoriety alone would have made them deeply unattractive to many employers, so their ongoing prospects weren't all that great, even once acquitted.
Never found guilty of the Lawrence murder of course, I guess we should say, but it's amazing how many other unsavoury incidents they all appear to have been caught up in, both before and since that one ground-shaking moment. Was always interesting that all five (Dobson, Acourt N, Acourt J, Knight and Norris) were publicly named as murderers by the Daily Mail all those years ago, and invited to sue if it wasn't true. None of them ever did, of course.
The only surprise is that none of them have, to my knowledge, been on the receiving end of any kind of vigilante action over time. They must all be constantly watching their backs, surely, whether in prison or outside.
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If it had been in America I think there'd have been some race riots after their acquittals. Remember what happened after Rodney King.
Especially when it transpired much later that the Police had "spied" on the Lawrence family during the Macpherson report. Totally disgusting and appalling behaviour.
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Well I guess the 2011 riots in London stemmed from the police shooting of Mark Duggan, so it could happen here.
I'm just amazed- given the profile and notoriety of the case- that nobody has ever taken it upon themselves to have a pop at one of the five original suspects. Not suggesting that is an appropriate course for anybody to take, by the way: I'm not a fan of vigilante justice as a rule! It must be a continual fear for them all, unless they really have got some sort of heavy duty protection around them.