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Notel - plans rejected
- Thread starter Papak
- Start date
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Excellent thread.
Del Fenner
Because of Boxing Day
Riveting response. 
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 70,124
Design so crap they rejected it twice in two days? SAKE! 
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Thinking about it, we could actually call it Albions "Notel" at the moment, couldn't we boys and girls.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 70,124
Certainly could, [MENTION=70]Easy 10[/MENTION]. Sleek sexy lines. Might have to do away with the 'cancer unit' sweetener and take out the the 'V' and the second 'O' wiv an 'ammer or a couple of Ulloa penalties tho eh?
The Birdman
New member
It was better looking than the Norwich Hotel we stayed in last year for my Norwich mates sixtieth birthday full bloody Arsenal Fans.
KingstonSeagull
New member
Anyone got the designs?
Black Dalek
Active member
- Jan 19, 2004
- 282
They should get Frank Gehry to design it. & whilst on it get him back to sort out the 'Pedestrian' King Alfred design.
From http://www.seagulls.co.uk/news/article/paul-barber-supporters-qa-part-two-3020138.aspx
Is the hotel going to happen now?
We will see if it is viable to change the design. If we can’t, then I’m afraid the local authority is responsible for stopping us creating a few hundred new jobs. We think the hotel development would have been a valuable addition to our non-matchday revenue which, in turn, helps us to build a more sustainable football club for our community. The hotel development would also have seen the development of a much-needed cancer unit, a further – and very different – benefit for our community. We were trying to do things for people in our city, but unfortunately – and quite bizarrely – it appears that the city's planning committee couldn’t see beyond the external appearance of the hotel to the much wider economic and health benefits for our community – and so, for now at least, we have hit a wall.
My guess is that the constraints the club are under are too hard/expensive to get around so they will wait until after the next B&H elections in 2019, and go again with a new planning committee.
Is the hotel going to happen now?
We will see if it is viable to change the design. If we can’t, then I’m afraid the local authority is responsible for stopping us creating a few hundred new jobs. We think the hotel development would have been a valuable addition to our non-matchday revenue which, in turn, helps us to build a more sustainable football club for our community. The hotel development would also have seen the development of a much-needed cancer unit, a further – and very different – benefit for our community. We were trying to do things for people in our city, but unfortunately – and quite bizarrely – it appears that the city's planning committee couldn’t see beyond the external appearance of the hotel to the much wider economic and health benefits for our community – and so, for now at least, we have hit a wall.
My guess is that the constraints the club are under are too hard/expensive to get around so they will wait until after the next B&H elections in 2019, and go again with a new planning committee.
seagullwedgee
Well-known member
- Aug 9, 2005
- 2,983
I watched the whole planning hearing live online. As we know it was lost on just one just abstention (because this councillor just didn't understand it) and one casting vote (because the chair was vehemently against it). Within that committee there will be some councillors who are sucking up to the chair for their lead, for the sake of their future; and there will be some who are strong enough individuals to vote according to the merits of the case.
One thing struck me though. Perry was breathtakingly arrogant in his presentation and in his answers to the questions and challenges. At times I could not believe what I has hearing from him. Not an ounce of humility or willingness to engage and compromise to get it over the line. Arrogant and naive, and this, after all the stamina and resilience he had to show to get the stadium project through to completion. Why?
Just one person got fed up with the clubs inability to present a clean, clear case with humility and a spirit of engagement. That one person abstained (when during the debate she was showing signs of giving it the green light for the jobs created), and that abstention lead to a score draw, with the casting vote sending it down.
I was actually staggered how arrogant we were, it seemed completely unprofessional. Maybe just me....
One thing struck me though. Perry was breathtakingly arrogant in his presentation and in his answers to the questions and challenges. At times I could not believe what I has hearing from him. Not an ounce of humility or willingness to engage and compromise to get it over the line. Arrogant and naive, and this, after all the stamina and resilience he had to show to get the stadium project through to completion. Why?
Just one person got fed up with the clubs inability to present a clean, clear case with humility and a spirit of engagement. That one person abstained (when during the debate she was showing signs of giving it the green light for the jobs created), and that abstention lead to a score draw, with the casting vote sending it down.
I was actually staggered how arrogant we were, it seemed completely unprofessional. Maybe just me....
Shropshire Seagull
Well-known member
Can't speak for a planning meeting but in elite sport, it's a fine line between arrogance and confidence - one is good but the other can often be disastrous .....
gregbrighton
New member
I thought the design was crap. It looked cheap and a bit like an American prison or detention camp. The fact there is to be a cancer unit in the basement seemed to be an afterthought to try and justify the unit for 'community use'. We have a nice stadium so it's worth putting in a building that complements and blend in rather than any old office block looking structure.
We have no idea of the constraints the albion were working to with their design, whether these were financial viability, or from their partners in the deal.
That's what they architects tried to achieve. The same architects that designed the stadium.
Not just you. I suspect that it was thought that nothing that was said in that meeting would affect the way the cookie would crumble, so showing, imo, disdain and contempt was going to do no harm. If so, a misjudgement, imo. A different approach may, in this particular case, have got it over the line.
Lincoln Imp
Well-known member
- Feb 2, 2009
- 5,964
Sadly, not much humanity or humility in that reply from Paul Barber. It he thinks it is bizarre that a planning committee attaches deal-breaking importance to the appearance of a building then he probably doesn't understand what a planning committee is for.
That's all a bit "Hey planning committee, people are going to die of cancer because of you. How do you sleep at night?" isn't it?