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Gullflyinghigh

Gullflyinghigh

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Apr 23, 2012
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Just read that myself, genuinely made me feel a little sad.

Each to their own and all that but if you can't even wait until your child is in school (so, what, 9am latest?) before partaking you really should take a nice long look in a mirror.
 


Bold Seagull

Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
29,789
Hove
It is incredible the lack of interest parents take in their kids education - to some school is just day care where their only interest is dropping off and picking up. A school should be part of your community, and every parent should want to contribute to it in whatever way they can, assisting their child's learning and wellbeing. Some of this is down to schools engaging parents as best they can too, but you need willing parents.

Now you can talk about Ofsted, school standards, funding etc. but you will never get away from performance and learning progress being inextricably linked to the wealth of the area in which the school sits. This is still the most fundamental measure of results the school is likely to achieve. Pupil premium really was just a drop in the ocean of closing the gap.
 


Paul Reids Sock

Paul Reids Sock

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Nov 3, 2004
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I really cannot understand the way some people act whilst dropping their kids off to school.

I always make sure that we are there on time (even if it involves a bit of a jog there sometimes) and feel a sense of pride in dressing properly even if I am on a day off. I know that probably sounds a bit snobbish but I want my son to see me getting ready properly in the morning as well to be ready for the day. I really don't understand some of the parents going to school in the pajamas and wandering toward school 5-10 minutes late with a fag in their hand and the child scruffily in their uniform.

It makes me quite sad to see. Normally if I am dropping my son off I will then be heading off to work and have to then walk through a cloud of smoke by the school gates as a load of parents decide to stop, light up and have a chat on a grass verge which belongs to a Petrol station (not the cleverest place)

Completely agree with Bold Seagull that it is often a case that it is day care to some. It's such a shame and makes me quite sad as it's really not that much effort, to not smoke or swear whilst dropping children off to school. The even more annoying thing is that it is a good school in a good area. I cannot comprehend the thoughts going through the minds of some parents to decide that having a joint at the school gates is appropriate

I might also add that mini sock was invited to a birthday party at one of the other kids houses - halfway through a few of the parents could smell something not quite tobacco like, we walked toward the smell and it was the Mum having a joint in the back garden with the kitchen door open.. Mini Sock left pretty soon after
 


Leekbrookgull

Leekbrookgull

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Jul 14, 2005
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Leek
Just hope that the school feels that it does not need to apologies,one could also ask how about a Dark Blue Uniform nearby ?
 




studio150

studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
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On the Border
The only surprise was that it wasn't the children smoking the cannabis. but maybe the benefits dont stretch that far these days after the Tory cuts.
 


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BigGully

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Sep 8, 2006
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Of course its rather depressing and reflects the misfortune of those children that have the parents that are doing this.

But its scraping the surface and although I support any school that tries to raise standards and the school environment, at what stage should and can the school genuinely effect peoples actions outside of the school gates and perhaps even should they ?

We are not talking pyjama wearing, nor smoking we are talking about illegal practices near to where the school is and whilst with their children, isnt it a job for the police to enforce it and challenge them.

I can bet ya that those parents and their children are already on the social service register, all having a team to look after their every whim, its hardly a deterrent or sanction for them to consider acting more responsibly.
 


jakarta

jakarta

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May 25, 2007
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Northern Monkeys ensuring that the fruit of their loins will do as well in life as they have, shock horror...
 




alfredmizen

alfredmizen

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Bold Seagull said:
It is incredible the lack of interest parents take in their kids education - to some school is just day care where their only interest is dropping off and picking up. A school should be part of your community, and every parent should want to contribute to it in whatever way they can, assisting their child's learning and wellbeing. Some of this is down to schools engaging parents as best they can too, but you need willing parents.

Now you can talk about Ofsted, school standards, funding etc. but you will never get away from performance and learning progress being inextricably linked to the wealth of the area in which the school sits. This is still the most fundamental measure of results the school is likely to achieve. Pupil premium really was just a drop in the ocean of closing the gap.
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I agree with you on all points, I find it unbelievable how uninterested some parents are in their childs education, I also agree with you on the school performance being linked to the affluence of the area , do you think there is a solution to this ?
 








jonny.rainbow

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Oct 29, 2005
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I'm surprised that anyone doing cannabis on a regular basis can get a primary school age child up, dressed and in school on time at all.
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If the parent has rheumatoid arthritis or another chronic condition it might be daily cannabis use that helps them do just that.
 








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Swillis

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jonny.rainbow said:
If the parent has rheumatoid arthritis or another chronic condition it might be daily cannabis use that helps them do just that.
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How right you are. How dare anyone question those wonderful parents, sparking up a fat one outside the kids school.
Good God, they will be saying that Heroin and crack are bad for you next.
 






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Since I have been contracting in Hove. I have loved taking the boy to school. For a treat, usually on Fridays we go via Lovers Walk steps.
 




Peteinblack

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Jun 3, 2004
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Bold Seagull said:
It is incredible the lack of interest parents take in their kids education - to some school is just day care where their only interest is dropping off and picking up. A school should be part of your community, and every parent should want to contribute to it in whatever way they can, assisting their child's learning and wellbeing. Some of this is down to schools engaging parents as best they can too, but you need willing parents.

Now you can talk about Ofsted, school standards, funding etc. but you will never get away from performance and learning progress being inextricably linked to the wealth of the area in which the school sits. This is still the most fundamental measure of results the school is likely to achieve. Pupil premium really was just a drop in the ocean of closing the gap.
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What really annoys me is when newspaper headlines (and politicians) claim that 'Schools are failing their students' or ''Teachers are incompetent', etc., - my immediate response is always 'er, what about the "sh*t-for-brains" parents who don't encourage their kids to respect education and an appreciation of learning?'

I've always believed that the main problem in education today is useless parents far more than 'bad teachers'.

Going the same way in universities too; if Tarquin or Jocasta don't get a good degree (because they've not attended classes or done any of the required reading for three years), then mummy and daddy blame the university or the Lecturers, and demand their money back, rather than giving their spoilt brats a bollocking!

All sadly symptomatic of a society in which pupils/students/parents are told they are customers/consumers, and so don't have to take any responsibility.
 
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Bold Seagull

Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
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Hove
alfredmizen said:
I agree with you on all points, I find it unbelievable how uninterested some parents are in their childs education, I also agree with you on the school performance being linked to the affluence of the area , do you think there is a solution to this ?
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I think the short answer is funding. Pupil premium had to be justified within a school budget as showing improvement to children from disadvantaged backgrounds. Often it is a case of specialised help or some 1 to 1 tuition. Some kids do just need a bit more help than in a typical class environment. Of course it is a bit more complex than that, but funding is a crucial factor.
 


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