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1066gull

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Always was gonna happen in NH and Vernont. South Carolina is the one that will be tight. I'm hopeful Bernie can do it but there is a long way to go.

If Hillary takes SC and Nevada she may win the nomination.

I'm hoping for a socialist change on both sides of the Atlantic.
 


topbanana36

Well-known member
Dec 29, 2007
1,753
New Zealand
Always was gonna happen in NH and Vernont. South Carolina is the one that will be tight. I'm hopeful Bernie can do it but there is a long way to go.

If Hillary takes SC and Nevada she may win the nomination.

I'm hoping for a socialist change on both sides of the Atlantic.

Cultural marxism, oh great I would really look forward to even more of that. I would prefer another member of the Bush family then to have more liberal left, pink and fluffy politics, we have enough of it already.
 


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1066gull

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Not Marxism, democratic socialism. The same goes for Corbyn, he stops himself short of Marxism to. In a way Corbyn's alternative is actually mainstream economics to some.

Its time for a political revolution I'm fed up with the 1% getting a deal that benefits them. I do not want to see our NHS and its services run by American private companies. We need to end these secretive deals that go on behind our back. To me that isn't democratic and a lot of young people are also inspired my this completely new style of politics.
 


topbanana36

Well-known member
Dec 29, 2007
1,753
New Zealand
Not Marxism, democratic socialism. The same goes for Corbyn, he stops himself short of Marxism to. In a way Corbyn's alternative is actually mainstream economics to some.

Its time for a political revolution I'm fed up with the 1% getting a deal that benefits them. I do not want to see our NHS and its services run by American private companies. We need to end these secretive deals that go on behind our back. To me that isn't democratic and a lot of young people are also inspired my this completely new style of politics.

One word TTIP. NHS doomed whilst the muppets are in charge and we are under the Lisbon treaty. If you get a chance read the 900 page document a real eye opener. Definitely not democratic!!!
 




Lyndhurst 14

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Jan 16, 2008
5,125
Always was gonna happen in NH and Vernont. South Carolina is the one that will be tight. I'm hopeful Bernie can do it but there is a long way to go.

If Hillary takes SC and Nevada she may win the nomination.

I'm hoping for a socialist change on both sides of the Atlantic.

Don't really mind if its Bernie or Hillary. I'm going to be living in the States for the next four years and the thought of one of those Republican bozos running the country is scary. Michael Bloomberg, the previous Mayor of New York, has said he may enter the race as he cannot believe how bad the standard of debate is and that the American public deserve better.
 


topbanana36

Well-known member
Dec 29, 2007
1,753
New Zealand
Not Marxism, democratic socialism. The same goes for Corbyn, he stops himself short of Marxism to. In a way Corbyn's alternative is actually mainstream economics to some.

Its time for a political revolution I'm fed up with the 1% getting a deal that benefits them. I do not want to see our NHS and its services run by American private companies. We need to end these secretive deals that go on behind our back. To me that isn't democratic and a lot of young people are also inspired my this completely new style of politics.

One word TTIP. NHS doomed whilst the muppets are in charge and we are under the Lisbon treaty. If you get a chance read the 900 page document a real eye opener. Definitely not democratic!!!
 


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1066gull

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Don't really mind if its Bernie or Hillary. I'm going to be living in the States for the next four years and the thought of one of those Republican bozos running the country is scary. Michael Bloomberg, the previous Mayor of New York, has said he may enter the race as he cannot believe how bad the standard of debate is and that the American public deserve better.
The problem with Hillary is that she is backed and financed by many of wall streets backers. She is pay off the mainstream problem and things won't change to much. Why is it the biggest country in the world still can't make reform on gun control and health care when these regions will benefit the 98%? Insurance and credit companies will lose billions. As soon as we have a government that is not infected by billionaires there will never be progressive change.

Hillary is not progressive.

She's not worse than the republicans though. Both Bernie and Hillary are better than them even on their worst days.
 




Mellor 3 Ward 4

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Jul 27, 2004
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saaf of the water
Don't really mind if its Bernie or Hillary. I'm going to be living in the States for the next four years and the thought of one of those Republican bozos running the country is scary. Michael Bloomberg, the previous Mayor of New York, has said he may enter the race as he cannot believe how bad the standard of debate is and that the American public deserve better.

In the same way that a Trump nomination would hand the Presidency to The Democrats, Bernie winning for the Democrats would hand the Presidency to the GOP

Trump v Sanders? Who the hell knows!
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,292
Sanders might well win, its his local area. but the commentators that know say he'll stand no chance after that, bar a few close ones, its going to Hillary all the way. Sanders is too old anyway, knows the country will never vote for him, he's in for the ride and maybe steer some future policy consessions.

Not Marxism, democratic socialism. The same goes for Corbyn, he stops himself short of Marxism to. In a way Corbyn's alternative is actually mainstream economics to some.

Corbyn while maybe not a complete signed up member of Marxism is a definatly on the marxist leaning side of socialism, which is what democratic socialism is essentially. his shadow chancellor is an avowed Marxist, so i think we're pretty clear where they sit, and its along way from the mainstream.
 


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1066gull

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One word TTIP. NHS doomed whilst the muppets are in charge and we are under the Lisbon treaty. If you get a chance read the 900 page document a real eye opener. Definitely not democratic!!!
This is being influenced by big corporations. If we want a government that can stand up to them than we need somebody like Bernie or Jeremy in charge.

That is why corporations hate them. That is why the media are on a with hunt against them. The BBC doesn't say a bad word about the government anymore because they're running scared. Much of the media is owned by the Murdoch's and the Daily Mail is owned by Lord Rothermere who constantly stigmatises minorities but doesn't pay any corporation tax. They're all part of the establishment together!

Wake up people and realise you're being brainwashed right before your eyes. Don't believe the lies in the papers how the state will own everything and you'll pay so much more tax, it's all lies and shit. The only people who will lose out of a progressive socialist government are these spin monkeys.
 




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1066gull

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In the same way that a Trump nomination would hand the Presidency to The Democrats, Bernie winning for the Democrats would hand the Presidency to the GOP

Trump v Sanders? Who the hell knows!
Bernie would smash Trump. I'm not so sure about Rubio I think he may get the nomination.
 


topbanana36

Well-known member
Dec 29, 2007
1,753
New Zealand
This is being influenced by big corporations. If we want a government that can stand up to them than we need somebody like Bernie or Jeremy in charge.

That is why corporations hate them. That is why the media are on a with hunt against them. The BBC doesn't say a bad word about the government anymore because they're running scared. Much of the media is owned by the Murdoch's and the Daily Mail is owned by Lord Rothermere who constantly stigmatises minorities but doesn't pay any corporation tax. They're all part of the establishment together!

Wake up people and realise you're being brainwashed right before your eyes. Don't believe the lies in the papers how the state will own everything and you'll pay so much more tax, it's all lies and shit. The only people who will lose out of a progressive socialist government are these spin monkeys.

I agree with you that the EU, USA and the UK are being run by the banks and big corporations. However, I don't know what is worse socialism and its keeping everyone poor agenda (corbyn and his cronies) or big businesses and the Eton mob with their agenda. As for the US, Hillary is more dangerous and manipulative with her lies than most of the other candidates put together.
 


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1066gull

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I agree with you that the EU, USA and the UK are being run by the banks and big corporations. However, I don't know what is worse socialism and its keeping everyone poor agenda (corbyn and his cronies) or big businesses and the Eton mob with their agenda. As for the US, Hillary is more dangerous and manipulative with her lies than most of the other candidates put together.
At the end of the day you got to go with what you believe in. I believe in Corbyn and his desire for a fairer, kinder politics. I've been a lot worse off then I've ever been before. I can't rent, haven't saved since I was sixteen and every job I've done I've been on a horrible flexible and worse zero hour contact. And a lot of people I've met have been in the same position. We can't live like that my entire life and its not sustainable. Judging by your uncertainty who to go for I can assume you've been pretty lucky to always have a secure job.
 




Albion my Albion

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Feb 6, 2016
17,834
Indiana, USA
Always was gonna happen in NH and Vernont. South Carolina is the one that will be tight. I'm hopeful Bernie can do it but there is a long way to go.

If Hillary takes SC and Nevada she may win the nomination.

I'm hoping for a socialist change on both sides of the Atlantic.

The Right couldn't stand Obama. What's going to happen with a socialist such as Sanders?
 


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1066gull

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The Right couldn't stand Obama. What's going to happen with a socialist such as Sanders?
Regain control of the Senate and push through the health care reforms, raise the minimum wage, change the gun laws, prosecute the bankers responsible for the economic crash and once the movement accelerates and gathers momentum see the entire process happen across Europe.

I wouldn't be surprised if David Cameron calls a snap General Election after the referendum. Corbyn has been preparing for such a thing right now in case it is to happen.
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
I wouldn't be surprised if David Cameron calls a snap General Election after the referendum. Corbyn has been preparing for such a thing right now in case it is to happen.

I thought we had fixed term Parliaments now ? ???
 


Albion my Albion

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Feb 6, 2016
17,834
Indiana, USA
Bernie would smash Trump. I'm not so sure about Rubio I think he may get the nomination.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/marco-rubio-is-in-a-precarious-spot-in-new-hampshire/

But the debate, during which Chris Christie pretty thoroughly tore Rubio apart, appears to have changed all that. It’s hard to say what people expect of Rubio now, but he’s in a pretty precarious position. Even before Saturday’s debate, Rubio’s hold on second place wasn’t especially secure, and with Rubio, John Kasich, Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush all huddled with support in the low teens or high single digits, even a small post-debate dip could push Rubio from second to third … or fourth … or fifth.

The Right, in the US this is very right, doesn't fancy anyone and that is why Trump could do well.
 






Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
A Prime Minister can request to dissolve parliament whenever he likes. Cameron may just choose to do that if he fears a Labour threat.
I didn't know that. So really we don't have fixed term Parliaments.
 


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