Keith Stroud.

Cowfold Seagull · Feb 5, 2016

I see our good friend Keith Stroud is the man in the middle tonight. He seems to have officiated at quite a few of our games this season, and by and large we have a pretty good record when he is in charge.

I have particularly fond memories of him refereeing the infamous game at the City Ground the season before last, when Leo's last gasp winner edged us past Notts Forest and into the Play-Offs.

Plus he was the man who sent off the Charlton defender in our come from behind triumph over Charlton in December.

Lets just hope that I still hold him in such esteem after the game tonight!

Daffy Duck · Feb 5, 2016

Not one of my favourite refs. Seen him referee a few of our games so far this season and he's been awful most of the time.
Bet he'll want to strut his stuff in front of the cameras.

Ernest · Feb 5, 2016

Refereed the Forest first game on SKY but as usual he will be doing the LITTLE man strut tonight and make sure it is all about HIM

Lower West Stander · Feb 5, 2016

Could've been Hoops.........

Pondicherry · Feb 6, 2016

I am sure this has been discussed elsewhere, but as this thread was already started i thought i would use it. Was at the game yesterday and during the match I thought Keith was making some bizarre decisions but sort of accepted it as am in WSU so long way from the action. However having recorded and watched the game on SKY, suspicions were confirmed.
1, The Ridgewell push and booking for Stockdale when trying to take a free kick
2, The foul following Hemeds missed header at corner in first half when there was no contact from anyone
3. The Sidwell "foul"
4. The foul on Wilson on the edge of the box (you could argue this one)

We won so no harm done but what was Keith on.

Cowfold Seagull · Feb 6, 2016

Pondicherry said:
I am sure this has been discussed elsewhere, but as this thread was already started i thought i would use it. Was at the game yesterday and during the match I thought Keith was making some bizarre decisions but sort of accepted it as am in WSU so long way from the action. However having recorded and watched the game on SKY, suspicions were confirmed.
1, The Ridgewell push and booking for Stockdale when trying to take a free kick
2, The foul following Hemeds missed header at corner in first half when there was no contact from anyone
3. The Sidwell "foul"
4. The foul on Wilson on the edge of the box (you could argue this one)

We won so no harm done but what was Keith on.

Well that's entirely my point. I'm not claiming that he is a good ref, merely a lucky ref! Not at all sure of the exact stats, just know that whenever he has reffed our games in recent times anyway, we seem to have largely ended up winning.

Let's hope we see him again soon!

Gazwag · Feb 6, 2016

Pondicherry said:
I am sure this has been discussed elsewhere, but as this thread was already started i thought i would use it. Was at the game yesterday and during the match I thought Keith was making some bizarre decisions but sort of accepted it as am in WSU so long way from the action. However having recorded and watched the game on SKY, suspicions were confirmed.
1, The Ridgewell push and booking for Stockdale when trying to take a free kick
2, The foul following Hemeds missed header at corner in first half when there was no contact from anyone
3. The Sidwell "foul"
4. The foul on Wilson on the edge of the box (you could argue this one)

We won so no harm done but what was Keith on.

The Sidwell foul imo was a foul as he put his elbow in his face don't think you can tell from the tv but it was very close to where I was.

Thunder Bolt · Feb 6, 2016

Pondicherry said:
I am sure this has been discussed elsewhere, but as this thread was already started i thought i would use it. Was at the game yesterday and during the match I thought Keith was making some bizarre decisions but sort of accepted it as am in WSU so long way from the action. However having recorded and watched the game on SKY, suspicions were confirmed.
1, The Ridgewell push and booking for Stockdale when trying to take a free kick
2, The foul following Hemeds missed header at corner in first half when there was no contact from anyone
3. The Sidwell "foul"
4. The foul on Wilson on the edge of the box (you could argue this one)

We won so no harm done but what was Keith on.

1. Ridgewell was pushed but the ref didn't give a free kick. Stockdale was arguing that it should have been, but the ref only gave Brentford a throw, which was why Stockdale walked away with the ball in his hand, so therefore booked for dissent.

LamieRobertson · Feb 6, 2016

Thunder Bolt said:
1. Ridgewell was pushed but the ref didn't give a free kick. Stockdale was arguing that it should have been, but the ref only gave Brentford a throw, which was why Stockdale walked away with the ball in his hand, so therefore booked for dissent.

Clearly a push just a few feet from the assistant (what's the point of them)...ridiculous decision

Everest · Feb 6, 2016

Thunder Bolt said:
1. Ridgewell was pushed but the ref didn't give a free kick. Stockdale was arguing that it should have been, but the ref only gave Brentford a throw, which was why Stockdale walked away with the ball in his hand, so therefore booked for dissent.

According to Sky, the 4th official said he was booked for delaying the restart, not dissent.

Thunder Bolt · Feb 6, 2016

Everest said:
According to Sky, the 4th official said he was booked for delaying the restart, not dissent.

Stockdale wanted a free kick for the push on Ridgewell. The lino ignored it, and Stockdale was pointing to his eyes. The lino had his flag up for a throw in, and then Stockdale put the ball down for a free kick. He then walked off with it, still moaning to the referee. He was booked and the ref confirmed it was a throw in. We were going loopy in the north stand because of the decision whether it was for dissent or delaying. I've watched the full 90 minutes on Player today and the commentators were puzzled by it.

BensGrandad · Feb 6, 2016

Thunder Bolt said:
1. Ridgewell was pushed but the ref didn't give a free kick. Stockdale was arguing that it should have been, but the ref only gave Brentford a throw, which was why Stockdale walked away with the ball in his hand, so therefore booked for dissent.

Thats how I saw it and he delayed the restart as he was totally out of position having gone to take the kick. Fully understandable and think the ref should have taken that into account.

LlcoolJ · Feb 6, 2016

He made some very odd decisions and is definitely a LOOK AT ME ref. But we've had far worse this season.

Thunder Bolt · Feb 6, 2016

BensGrandad said:
Thats how I saw it and he delayed the restart as he was totally out of position having gone to take the kick. Fully understandable and think the ref should have taken that into account.

There was no kick. It was wrongly given as a throw in.

BensGrandad · Feb 6, 2016

Thunder Bolt said:
There was no kick. It was wrongly given as a throw in.

I think that DS went to take a kick thinking it had been given for the push and when he realised it was a thrown he was caught out of position.

Guy Fawkes · Feb 6, 2016

Pondicherry said:
I am sure this has been discussed elsewhere, but as this thread was already started i thought i would use it. Was at the game yesterday and during the match I thought Keith was making some bizarre decisions but sort of accepted it as am in WSU so long way from the action. However having recorded and watched the game on SKY, suspicions were confirmed.
1, The Ridgewell push and booking for Stockdale when trying to take a free kick
2, The foul following Hemeds missed header at corner in first half when there was no contact from anyone
3. The Sidwell "foul"
4. The foul on Wilson on the edge of the box (you could argue this one)

We won so no harm done but what was Keith on.

2, The foul following Hemeds missed header at corner in first half when there was no contact from anyone

The ref pointed to say that the foul had occurred towards the back of the box where Dunk and a Brentford player were - was this in the tv shot during the build up to the header to see what did or didn't happen there? I'd imagine most were watching the centre of the penalty area and wondering what the free kick was for and maybe the cameras didn't focus on this area either?

Thunder Bolt · Feb 6, 2016

Guy Fawkes said:
2, The foul following Hemeds missed header at corner in first half when there was no contact from anyone

The ref pointed to say that the foul had occurred towards the back of the box where Dunk and a Brentford player were - was this in the tv shot during the build up to the header to see what did or didn't happen there? I'd imagine most were watching the centre of the penalty area and wondering what the free kick was for and maybe the cameras didn't focus on this area either?

Again the commentators couldn't see what had happened. They replayed it, but couldn't find it. They said that the ref must have spotted something!!
Being in the north, it was too far away for me to see which is one of the reasons I watched the game again this evening.

Stroud might make it up as he goes along, but as the OP says, we do tend to win the games he refs.

Guy Fawkes · Feb 6, 2016

Thunder Bolt said:
Again the commentators couldn't see what had happened. They replayed it, but couldn't find it. They said that the ref must have spotted something!!
Being in the north, it was too far away for me to see which is one of the reasons I watched the game again this evening.

Stroud might make it up as he goes along, but as the OP says, we do tend to win the games he refs.

Dunk was towards the 18 yard line, to the right hand side of the goal (if facing the goal)

I don't have Sky TV and haven't seen a replay anywhere of this incident so i have no idea if Dunk would have been in shot or if the commentators were looking at Dunk when reviewing it

The ref gave the free kick around where Dunk was and pointed towards him to say that's were the free kick occurred so he may have seen something there (or imagined something) i don't know - that's why i wondered if someone was able to look again and see if they could spot what (if anything) Dunk may have done?

drew · Feb 6, 2016

Thunder Bolt said:
Stockdale wanted a free kick for the push on Ridgewell. The lino ignored it, and Stockdale was pointing to his eyes. The lino had his flag up for a throw in, and then Stockdale put the ball down for a free kick. He then walked off with it, still moaning to the referee. He was booked and the ref confirmed it was a throw in. We were going loopy in the north stand because of the decision whether it was for dissent or delaying. I've watched the full 90 minutes on Player today and the commentators were puzzled by it.

Stupid booking. Irrespective of the decision by the ref, he clearly indicated it was a throw in so by walking away with the ball, whether for delay or dissent, he was going to get booked.

Guinness Boy · Feb 6, 2016

On Twitter I suggested at half time that he might have dropped some acid. It was the only explanation I could think of at the time.

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