Manu instead of Zamora?

Giraffe · Dec 26, 2015

Explain that one to me.

I know we are protecting Zamora and trying to keep him fit but 20 mins instead of Manu would surely have done little damage.

Manu is not a forward and I'm not sure he is a footballer either. He has certainly never heard of the offside rule.

samtheseagull · Dec 26, 2015

To be fair Manu did cause a few problems, just a shame he cant hold the line well

Mackenzie · Dec 26, 2015

Perhaps Manu did well in training.

OvingdeanSeagull · Dec 26, 2015

People moan about him not being given a chance, then when he finally gets one, people moan that the wrong person was brought on. Listening to the radio, he seemed to be causing quite a few problems to Brentford today, and possibly should've even got a penalty. Personally I'd say it's a good thing if he starts being given a chance to prove himself, and game time can only help.

One Teddy Maybank · Dec 26, 2015

OvingdeanSeagull said:
People moan about him not being given a chance, then when he finally gets one, people moan that the wrong person was brought on. Listening to the radio, he seemed to be causing quite a few problems to Brentford today, and possibly should've even got a penalty. Personally I'd say it's a good thing if he starts being given a chance to prove himself, and game time can only help.

The radio commentary was clutching at straws then. As soon as he came on, we stopped being able to retain the ball because everything either bounced off him or he was offside.

4 offsides in 20 minutes is unacceptable, he did the same at Wolves, and I'm afraid even COG would have been a better option today (and he's not good enough either).

Only Hughton will know why Zamora didn't come on instead.

Deano's Invisible Pants · Dec 26, 2015

OvingdeanSeagull said:
People moan about him not being given a chance, then when he finally gets one, people moan that the wrong person was brought on. Listening to the radio, he seemed to be causing quite a few problems to Brentford today, and possibly should've even got a penalty. Personally I'd say it's a good thing if he starts being given a chance to prove himself, and game time can only help.

The pen incident was right in front of us. It was a foul, albeit an innocuous one, and had it been anywhere else on the pitch it would have been given as a free kick.

That said, Elvis really does look hopelessly naive / out of his depth in the championship. Thought BZ would come on and hold the ball up - which is what we needed today.

Giraffe · Dec 26, 2015

OvingdeanSeagull said:
People moan about him not being given a chance, then when he finally gets one, people moan that the wrong person was brought on. Listening to the radio, he seemed to be causing quite a few problems to Brentford today, and possibly should've even got a penalty. Personally I'd say it's a good thing if he starts being given a chance to prove himself, and game time can only help.

Having been at the game not listening on the radio I really don't think you can say Manu caused any problems. Yes there was a hit of a penalty shout but that was it really. He was offside 4 times in 20 minutes, and didn't really hold the ball up very well. Zamora would have been a better bet.

dazzer6666 · Dec 26, 2015

He made a couple of decent runs (even timing it to beat the offside line once) but apart from that didn't offer much really. Penalty would have been pretty soft if it had been given, but the ref today was so bad it easily could've been.

HantsSeagull · Dec 26, 2015

i am more concerned about why CH keeps starting Hemed ahead of Zamora - i know we are trying to protect him, but Hemed has done very little to get his place back ahead of Zamora and I thought Hemed starting two or three games ago after being dropped for a game, was a prelude to Bobby starting a couple more. Lets face it - even when he isn't having a great game at least BZ still pops up and scores.

luge · Dec 26, 2015

I think today was a difficult game to judge him on. We were hardly breaking regularly, and when we did Kayal always took one touch too many. He does need to learn the offside rule.

I was right in front of penalty shout, It was a penalty IMHO.

samtheseagull · Dec 26, 2015

One Teddy Maybank said:
The radio commentary was clutching at straws then. As soon as he came on, we stopped being able to retain the ball because everything either bounced off him or he was offside.

4 offsides in 20 minutes is unacceptable, he did the same at Wolves, and I'm afraid even COG would have been a better option today (and he's not good enough either).

Only Hughton will know why Zamora didn't come on instead.

I dont remember everything bouncing off him? Some of the balls to him where poor. I would say he looked more dangerous than Hemed today

Titanic · Dec 26, 2015

I reckon Zamora would have come on if Greer hadn't pulled up.... probably for Murphy with ManuManu-de-der-de-de-der going out wide.

Hampster Gull · Dec 26, 2015

Titanic said:
Zamora would have come on if Greer hadn't pulled up.

I think thqt was the plan

JC Footy Genius · Dec 26, 2015

luge said:
I think today was a difficult game to judge him on. We were hardly breaking regularly, and when we did Kayal always took one touch too many. He does need to learn the offside rule.

I was right in front of penalty shout, It was a penalty IMHO.

He didn't seem to understand it when he first came on away at Wolves. He must have been drilled in training, holding the line,timing runs etc but obviously still not working .. which is rather worrying.

severnside gull · Dec 26, 2015

Right choice at that point in the game. We needed an injection of pace to give some threat and hold them from sending all 10 outfield players forward.
Zamora would have come on later had Greer not gone down injured.

Herr Tubthumper · Dec 26, 2015

I thought Elvis instead of Zammo was a daft move but at the start of the 2nd I also thought Crofts for Wilson was negative but it proved to be the opposite. What do I know?

Barry M · Dec 26, 2015

I would have liked to see Murphy replaced early in the second half for Manu, and Zamora for hamed. Obviously with the injury Bobby couldn't come on which I think would have happened.

Hampster Gull · Dec 26, 2015

Herr Tubthumper said:
I thought Elvis instead of Zammo was a daft move but at the start of the 2nd I also thought Crofts for Wilson was negative but it proved to be the opposite. What do I know?

I often wonder the same

One Teddy Maybank · Dec 26, 2015

samtheseagull said:
I dont remember everything bouncing off him? Some of the balls to him where poor. I would say he looked more dangerous than Hemed today

Did he hold one ball up then? I didn't see that happen once, which is why we under pressure once Hemed went off, and why the better change IMO would have been Zamora.

samtheseagull · Dec 26, 2015

One Teddy Maybank said:
Did he hold one ball up then? I didn't see that happen once, which is why we under pressure once Hemed went off, and why the better change IMO would have been Zamora.

the balls where either played in behind or where high and crap. I don't remember him mis controlling any

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