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French far right National Front 'routed' in key vote



Herr Tubthumper

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France's far-right National Front (FN) has failed to win a single region in the second round of elections, exit polls indicate.
Early results suggest the party was beaten into third place, despite leading in six of 13 regions in the first round of votes a week ago.
The polls predict Nicolas Sarkozy's centre-right Republicans will win most seats ahead of the ruling Socialists.
Acknowledging defeat, Ms Le Pen pledged to keep fighting.
"Nothing can stop us. Long live the French Republic! Long live the nation! Long live France!" she told her supporters.
 






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Only because one party pulled out and they urged all the people to vote for Sarkozy party, not very democratic is it, otherwise the results would have been different.
Is this how democracy works in the EU these days?
 
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Herr Tubthumper

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Only because one party pulled out and they urged all the people to vote for Sarkozy party, not very democratic is it.

You obviously don't understand how the second run works do you?
 




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Tell me how it works then?

The two-round system (also known as the second ballot, runoff voting or ballotage) is a voting system used to elect a single winner where the voter casts a single vote for their chosen candidate. However, if no candidate receives the required number of votes (usually an absolute majority or 40-45% with a winning margin of 5-15%), then those candidates having less than a certain proportion of the votes, or all but the two candidates receiving the most votes, are eliminated, and a second round of voting is held.

The two round system is used around the world for the election of legislative bodies and directly elected presidents. For example, it is used in French presidential, legislative, and departemental elections. In Italy, it is used to elect mayors, but also to decide which party or coalition receives a majority bonus in city councils and in the lower house of the Parliament. A two-round system is used also to elect the presidents of Afghanistan, Argentina, Austria, Brazil, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Cape Verde, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Croatia, Czech Republic, Cyprus, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Finland, Ghana, Guatemala, Haiti, India, Indonesia, Liberia, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Senegal, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Timor-Leste, Turkey, Ukraine, Uruguay, Zimbabwe —see: Table of voting systems by nation. Historically it was used in the German Empire of 1871-1918, and in New Zealand in the 1908 and 1911 elections.
 






daveinprague

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Only because one party pulled out and they urged all the people to vote for Sarkozy party, not very democratic is it, otherwise the results would have been different.
Is this how democracy works in the EU these days?

Seriously, how much urging do you think socialist voters would need not to vote for the far right FN?
 
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Herr Tubthumper

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Only because one party pulled out and they urged all the people to vote for Sarkozy party, not very democratic is it, otherwise the results would have been different.
Is this how democracy works in the EU these days?

I see you have edited your post to now add a dig at the EU. It's not how they do it across the EU, obviously. It's how they do it in France. In a run-off style of voting why would parties lower down the voting, as the Socialists were with 28%, stand a second time?That's the point of this system. And yes you can use tactics, in fact this system encourages tactics until there is an overall winner. And you might say it has flaws but FPTP and PR and that weird thing called AV are not perfect either; in fact no system is. The French have been doing this for decades; it works for them. And [MENTION=1320]Notters[/MENTION] has explained it wonderfully succinctly above.

You appear very ignorant of this topic.
 




daveinprague

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You may be right, i wonder though where the nearly 4 million voters will put their cross. Could mean a parties chances of getting back in power will also be a distant memory.

Ive been assured by many of the right wing persuasion on NSC that they were mostly labour voters, so I guess labour :-D
 








Gregory2Smith1

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there was 3 candidates in most régions,except where he socialists bottled it going up against the Le Pen's today and withdrew

if they hadn't FN would have been in power tonight,routed by the system of voting more like

FN polled more than 6.5 million votes a fraction behind the socialists,but don't get no voice,is that right?

http://elections.interieur.gouv.fr/regionales-2015/FE.html
 



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