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#killallwhitemen row: Time to get the pringles out for this one







Stat Brother

Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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Moved to other place at 16:53.
 




father_and_son

father_and_son

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the following bit interests me...

“The decision to discontinue these charges has been taken because there is not enough evidence to provide a realistic prospect of conviction.”


If it's her twitter account and she hasn't said she's been hacked at any point... how much more evidence do the CPS need??? That's not saying they should prosecute, just that not having enough evidence is utter crap. They could have said "it's not in the public interest", or "because of the publicity, we haven't got the balls to follow this through it case one us loses our job"... but lack of evidence is just rubbish.

[AGAIN: I repeat.... I'm not saying they should prosecute, just that this statement is ridiculous]
 


Paul Reids Sock

Paul Reids Sock

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Nov 3, 2004
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I don't get it. She looks ... white?

I completely understand her asking white men not to attend a session meant for ethnic minority women, the only thing that annoys me is the comment that she can't be racist or sexist due to being an ethnic minority woman. I am assuming that the mention of racism describing structures of privildge etc. is somewhere deep in the depths of the law?
 




Paul Reids Sock

Paul Reids Sock

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father_and_son said:
the following bit interests me...

“The decision to discontinue these charges has been taken because there is not enough evidence to provide a realistic prospect of conviction.”


If it's her twitter account and she hasn't said she's been hacked at any point... how much more evidence do the CPS need??? That's not saying they should prosecute, just that not having enough evidence is utter crap. They could have said "it's not in the public interest", or "because of the publicity, we haven't got the balls to follow this through it case one us loses our job"... but lack of evidence is just rubbish.

[AGAIN: I repeat.... I'm not saying they should prosecute, just that this statement is ridiculous]
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It all seems a bit weird doesn't it?
 


N

narly101

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Feb 16, 2009
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Whilst I applaud the CPS for not continuing with this particular conviction (waste of time and money), the thought process behind the quote below is wholly misguided;

“I, as an ethnic minority woman, cannot be racist or sexist towards white men, because racism and sexism describe structures of privilege based on race and gender,”

Silly bint.
 


Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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father_and_son said:
the following bit interests me...

“The decision to discontinue these charges has been taken because there is not enough evidence to provide a realistic prospect of conviction.”


If it's her twitter account and she hasn't said she's been hacked at any point... how much more evidence do the CPS need??? That's not saying they should prosecute, just that not having enough evidence is utter crap. They could have said "it's not in the public interest", or "because of the publicity, we haven't got the balls to follow this through it case one us loses our job"... but lack of evidence is just rubbish.

[AGAIN: I repeat.... I'm not saying they should prosecute, just that this statement is ridiculous]
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More to the point how is it different to Liam Stacey who was jailed for 56 days over his Muamba tweets?

The writer and libertarian in me doesn't want either of them prosecuted. However, the bit of me that despairs at inconsistent football refereeing is incandescent at this. A red card offence is a red card offence.
 




Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

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Aug 18, 2009
65,454
Beside the seaside, beside the sea
father_and_son said:
the following bit interests me...

“The decision to discontinue these charges has been taken because there is not enough evidence to provide a realistic prospect of conviction.”


If it's her twitter account and she hasn't said she's been hacked at any point... how much more evidence do the CPS need??? That's not saying they should prosecute, just that not having enough evidence is utter crap. They could have said "it's not in the public interest", or "because of the publicity, we haven't got the balls to follow this through it case one us loses our job"... but lack of evidence is just rubbish.

[AGAIN: I repeat.... I'm not saying they should prosecute, just that this statement is ridiculous]
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It's possible the tweet was deleted and nobody had a screenshot.
 




Bakero

Bakero

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Oct 9, 2010
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This novel premise that minorities cannot be racist, or women cannot be sexist, needs to be stamped out. It's a dangerous and worrying idea that I've heard a few times in recent years. It seems to be a concept that was invented by sociologists in the states and has been imported to the UK.

If a group of Bangladeshi youths attack a Chinese kid, making reference to his race, is this not racism?
 




Wilko

Wilko

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Sep 19, 2003
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Guinness Boy said:
More to the point how is it different to Liam Stacey who was jailed for 56 days over his Muamba tweets?

The writer and libertarian in me doesn't want either of them prosecuted. However, the bit of me that despairs at inconsistent football refereeing is incandescent at this. A red card offence is a red card offence.
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Indeed. As a left winger myself I fully support the drive for equality. I cannot understand how we can continue the march to sexual and racial equality if we then allow complete and utter freedom for one party to discriminate freely against another party. How does open female to male discrimination (or black to white or asian to white) help resolve inequality?
 


Wilko

Wilko

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Sep 19, 2003
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BN1
Bakero said:
This novel premise that minorities cannot be racist, or women cannot be sexist, needs to be stamped out. It's a dangerous and worrying idea that I've heard a few times in recent years. It seems to be a concept that was invented by sociologists in the states and has been imported to the UK.
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This is the dictionary definition of racism:

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.


Now, unless I am mis-reading it then I see no clear reason why the act of racism cannot be adopted by any race TO any other race?
 


Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

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Aug 18, 2009
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Beside the seaside, beside the sea
father_and_son said:
Then who made a complaint?? Somebody must have decided it was offensive and taken, something to the Police to make an allegation.
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The article said she was accused of tweeting that hashtag. Maybe they hadn't kept a screenshot of it? Who knows?
 




smillie's garden

smillie's garden

Am I evil?
Aug 11, 2003
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father_and_son said:
the following bit interests me...

“The decision to discontinue these charges has been taken because there is not enough evidence to provide a realistic prospect of conviction.”

If it's her twitter account and she hasn't said she's been hacked at any point... how much more evidence do the CPS need??? That's not saying they should prosecute, just that not having enough evidence is utter crap. They could have said "it's not in the public interest", or "because of the publicity, we haven't got the balls to follow this through it case one us loses our job"... but lack of evidence is just rubbish.

[AGAIN: I repeat.... I'm not saying they should prosecute, just that this statement is ridiculous]
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The Crown Prosecution Service is not saying this isn't evidence, it is saying that this evidence alone would not be enough to get a conviction. The subtext of this, IMO, is an admission that Ms. Mustafa's statement about racism and sexism is based in reality, and that a hashtag from a white male that said killallall[insert racial/gendered epithet] would be qualitatively different to her tweet, which IS offensive, but comes out of a reaction to racism/sexism, rather than being verifiably racist/sexist itself.
 


StonehamPark

StonehamPark

#Brighton-Nil
Oct 30, 2010
9,775
BC, Canada
She's white though..

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