Do you eat hallal food?

looney · Oct 19, 2015

There are various reasons to object to it.

1. Hallal meat is slaughtered in abatoirs that only employ practising muslims,side stepping discrimination laws.

2.Hallal is a Part of the sharia legal system which among other things, degrades women and non-beleivers are considered inferior.

3. Animal welfare issues.

4 Religious/theist.EG Acts in the bible prohibits the consumption of meat sacrificed to another god.

5. Less choice as Bacon and alcohol can be removed from the menu.

6.. Hallal Cetification which is essentially a racket to exstort money from companies which everyone pays when they buy the products, examples of this are Kingsmill bread and Kelloggs cerials(the symbol is on the packet).

I wont pay for sacrificial meat etc as I am uncomfortable underpinning other peoples wacky religious beleifs with my money. i neither will validate their religious law that says Im inferior(They can go and do one).

Ive notice quite a few places(fast food outlets) in Crawley displaying the hallal symbol but not many customers.

So do you eat it and why?

Eeyore · Oct 19, 2015

Doesn't sound very kosher to me.

spence · Oct 19, 2015

Yes i have because i have found it cheaper on occasions.

beorhthelm · Oct 19, 2015

as someone who has eaten a few kebabs and currys, only answer to this is yes.

btw, i believe point 4 is wrong and there is nothing in christianty prohibiting any food. maybe old testesment, but that doesnt really count. and i wonder if you apply point 6 to buy British campaign, or gluten free certification?

Simster · Oct 19, 2015

Some good points looney, but point 4 doesn't sound right to me - they believe in the same god don't they?

I don't object, but there is food for thought there.

Yorkshire-Seagull · Oct 19, 2015

Halal is a cleaner, more humane way of extracting meat from an animal. Instead of the torture some of the animals receive in non-Halal abattoirs, killing them by a single cut to the throat is surely preferable. I have no issues with whoever prepares my meat, whether they identify as muslim, christian or other made-up groups..

Also, your point 5 is pointless. Bacon 'can' be removed from menus in any restaurant, but often isn't.

So, I don't care about point 1 or 6, and I think points 3, 4 and 5 are incorrect. As for point two, I couldn't be bothered whether someone considers me inferior or not, as long as I get my takeaway.

looney · Oct 19, 2015

beorhthelm said:
as someone who has eaten a few kebabs and currys, only answer to this is yes.

btw, i believe point 4 is wrong and there is nothing in christianty prohibiting any food. maybe old testesment, but that doesnt really count. and i wonder if you apply point 6 to buy British campaign, or gluten free certification?

Its not wrong, maybe ambigious as the bible says different things and both new testement. And if a company was paying a fee to a anti-gluten movement or a buy british org then I would not buy it.

beorhthelm · Oct 19, 2015

looney said:
... if a company was paying a fee to a anti-gluten movement or a buy british org then I would not buy it.

you better stop buying British then, or buying anything with any form of certification, food or non-food, its all paid for.

looney · Oct 19, 2015

beorhthelm said:
you better stop buying British then, or buying anything with any form of certification, food or non-food, its all paid for.

Eh? We are talking about companies paying fees to clandestine organisations using religion on spurious grounds.a fee that all customers pay. Why, or how, is that comparable to your wild attempts at analogies?

Triggaaar · Oct 20, 2015

looney said:
Do you eat hallal food?

Yes, all meat eaters here do, as some halal food isn't labelled as halal.

1. Hallal meat is slaughtered in abatoirs that only employ practising muslims,side stepping discrimination laws.

That's not correct.

2.Hallal is a Part of the sharia legal system

So? I'm sure there are other things that a part of their legal system that we don't mind.

3. Animal welfare issues.

I don't buy meat labelled as halal because of this.

4 Religious/theist.EG Acts in the bible prohibits the consumption of meat sacrificed to another god.

The bible does not prohibit the consumption of halal meat.

5. Less choice as Bacon and alcohol can be removed from the menu.

Eh? I could eat halal and bacon and drink.

6.. Hallal Cetification which is essentially a racket to exstort money from companies which everyone pays when they buy the products, examples of this are Kingsmill bread and Kelloggs cerials(the symbol is on the packet).

What?

I wont pay for sacrificial meat etc as I am uncomfortable underpinning other peoples wacky religious beleifs with my money.

Make sure you don't eat in restaurants then. Or buy red meat from the supermarket.

Triggaaar · Oct 20, 2015

Simster said:
Some good points looney, but point 4 doesn't sound right to me - they believe in the same god don't they?

Although it's the same god, Christians don't believe Mohamed was a profit, and it's wrong for Christians to worship another religion. But it is ok for them to eat Halal, as long as:
1) It's not being done in a religious way (eg, if the person serving said this is Halal meat to worship Allah.
2) They don't eat it in front of a younger/more impressionable Christian who might think they are worshiping another religion.

Drumstick · Oct 20, 2015

Do they sell it in Aldi/Asda?

If so then yep, likely.

OzMike · Oct 20, 2015

Yes, as my favourite curry shop has a sign saying that they use it, but then again they have a sign to say that they are open for breakfast too and they clearly are not.
There are people here from all over the world, mainly it seems from Asia, so the sign just might make the difference between them eating there and somewhere else, whether the meat is Halal or not.
They are not adverse to putting up any old sign here to get business, no one is going to bother checking it out.

Worthingite · Oct 20, 2015

To be honest I wouldn't know if I had or I hadn't, and the amount of ****s given reflect that.

Juan Albion · Oct 20, 2015

Triggaaar said:
Although it's the same god, Christians don't believe Mohamed was a profit, and it's wrong for Christians to worship another religion. But it is ok for them to eat Halal, as long as:
1) It's not being done in a religious way (eg, if the person serving said this is Halal meat to worship Allah.
2) They don't eat it in front of a younger/more impressionable Christian who might think they are worshiping another religion.

Is the correct answer.

daveinprague · Oct 20, 2015

Air and water are halal. If you object to them, boycott them?

I think it is more to do with English companies maximising their profits. .

beorhthelm · Oct 20, 2015

looney said:
Eh? We are talking about companies paying fees to clandestine organisations using religion on spurious grounds.a fee that all customers pay. Why, or how, is that comparable to your wild attempts at analogies?

lol, its not analogies, it directly comparable examples of the same practice, requiring one to pay a fee, be inspected and meet certain standards for a certificate. BS or IEE on your electrical items, farm tractor on your food, its just the same. the only difference is one is based on daft religious texts, but there's plenty of equally spurious certification in industry. sorry to hole your argument.

TWOCHOICEStom · Oct 20, 2015

To be honest, if I spent my time thinking like your opening post, I'd be so exhausted by dinner time that I wouldn't care less where the meat came from!

Leyton Gull · Oct 20, 2015

No I never! There's plenty left! Init.

Triggaaar · Oct 20, 2015

looney said:
6.. Hallal Cetification which is essentially a racket to exstort money from companies which everyone pays when they buy the products, examples of this are Kingsmill bread and Kelloggs cerials(the symbol is on the packet).

beorhthelm said:
i wonder if you apply point 6 to buy British campaign, or gluten free certification?

looney said:
And if a company was paying a fee to a anti-gluten movement or a buy british org then I would not buy it.

Do Kelloggs have to pay to have their cereal halal certified? I can't find a halal symbol on my cereal, and if there was one, why would they have to pay? I don't think any animals are in it.

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