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[News] New government counter-extremism strategy



JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
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The home secretary has vowed to "systematically confront and challenge extremist ideology" as she detailed new curbs on those who "spread hate".

Measures within the counter-extremism strategy are:

  • A full review of public institutions such as schools, further and higher education colleges, local authorities, the NHS and the civil service to ensure they are protected from "entryism" - or infiltration - by extremists
  • An official investigation into the application of Sharia law in the UK
  • Extremism disruption orders to stop individuals engaging in extremist behaviour
  • Closure orders for law enforcement and local authorities to close down premises used to support extremism
  • Tougher powers for broadcasting regulator Ofcom so action can be taken against radio and television channels showing extremist content
  • Demands that internet service providers do more to remove extremist material and identify those responsible for it
  • Anyone with a conviction or civil order for extremist activity will also be automatically barred from working with children and vulnerable people
The Muslim Council of Britain has released a highly-critical statement in response to the plans.
Secretary general Dr Shuja Shafi said the strategy would "reinforce perceptions that all aspects of Muslim life must undergo a 'compliance' test to prove our loyalty to this country".


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34568574

Good ideas about bloody time ? or Pandering to prejudice/intolerance ? or Rhetoric/gimmicks unlikely to make a difference ?
 




surrey jim

Not in Surrey
Aug 2, 2005
18,093
Bevendean

  • Anyone with a conviction or civil order for extremist activity will also be automatically barred from working with children and vulnerable people

Does this mean that someone with a conviction for terrorism related activities could have passed their CRB check before now?
 


fat old seagull

New member
Sep 8, 2005
5,239
Rural Ringmer
The home secretary has vowed to "systematically confront and challenge extremist ideology" as she detailed new curbs on those who "spread hate".

Measures within the counter-extremism strategy are:

  • A full review of public institutions such as schools, further and higher education colleges, local authorities, the NHS and the civil service to ensure they are protected from "entryism" - or infiltration - by extremists
  • An official investigation into the application of Sharia law in the UK
  • Extremism disruption orders to stop individuals engaging in extremist behaviour
  • Closure orders for law enforcement and local authorities to close down premises used to support extremism
  • Tougher powers for broadcasting regulator Ofcom so action can be taken against radio and television channels showing extremist content
  • Demands that internet service providers do more to remove extremist material and identify those responsible for it
  • Anyone with a conviction or civil order for extremist activity will also be automatically barred from working with children and vulnerable people
The Muslim Council of Britain has released a highly-critical statement in response to the plans.
Secretary general Dr Shuja Shafi said the strategy would "reinforce perceptions that all aspects of Muslim life must undergo a 'compliance' test to prove our loyalty to this country".


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34568574

Good ideas about bloody time ? or Pandering to prejudice/intolerance ? or Rhetoric/gimmicks unlikely to make a difference ?

ASAP ....But mean it ! But disappointed that the Muslim Council don't support these views. After all it's in their interests too.
 


studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
29,611
On the Border
Dr Shafi also said he detected "McCarthyist undertones" in the plans to create blacklists and exclude and ban people those deemed to be extremists.

While those that support and join IS would have extreme views, it is those that hold views that the majority do not share that must be protected, otherwise there is a danger of a witchhunt, with perhaps many being ordered to attend classes to have these views removed and replaced with mainstream views.

We must retain the right to free speech with the ability to challenge and hold different views to those in power. Will these new powers be over used by the Police much as the Terror laws are from time to time, to target certain groups. If you look back over time, would those that marched for CND have been classified as holding extreme views because they wanted to remove nuclear arms.
 


Peter Grummit

Well-known member
Oct 13, 2004
6,769
Lewes
As the government, the Party controls the population with four ministries:

the Ministry of Peace deals with war and defence.
the Ministry of Plenty deals with economic affairs (rationing and starvation).
the Ministry of Love deals with law and order (torture and brainwashing).
the Ministry of Truth deals with news, entertainment, education and art (propaganda).

Anyone for a two-minute hate against anyone who opposes these measures?
 




GT49er

Well-known member
Feb 1, 2009
46,720
Gloucester
The Muslim Council of Britain has released a highly-critical statement in response to the plans. Secretary general Dr Shuja Shafi said the strategy would "reinforce perceptions that all aspects of Muslim life must undergo a 'compliance' test to prove our loyalty to this country".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34568574

Good ideas about bloody time ? or Pandering to prejudice/intolerance ? or Rhetoric/gimmicks unlikely to make a difference ?

No great fan of the current Home Secretary, but in this instance I go for the 'About bloody time' option. Dr. Shuja Shafi has done the Muslim community no service by his misplaced remarks - it is their kids that this legislation is aimed at, trying to save them from throwing their lives away, and ruining others' lives.
 




JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Does this mean that someone with a conviction for terrorism related activities could have passed their CRB check before now?

A CRB check would flag up all criminal convictions but some organisations looking to educate/indoctrinate vulnerable people might not even do a CRB check. Some could also choose to ignore convictions relating to extremist activities this measure theoretically closes that loophole.

No great fan of the current Home Secretary, but in this instance I go for the 'About bloody time' option. Dr. Shuja Shafi has done the Muslim community no service by his misplaced remarks - it is their kids that this legislation is aimed at, trying to save them from throwing their lives away, and ruining others' lives.

That's where I stand, this is a start with much more needing to be done. Anything that loosens the grip of religious indoctrination even slightly should be welcomed.

Dr Shafi also said he detected "McCarthyist undertones" in the plans to create blacklists and exclude and ban people those deemed to be extremists.

While those that support and join IS would have extreme views, it is those that hold views that the majority do not share that must be protected, otherwise there is a danger of a witchhunt, with perhaps many being ordered to attend classes to have these views removed and replaced with mainstream views.

We must retain the right to free speech with the ability to challenge and hold different views to those in power. Will these new powers be over used by the Police much as the Terror laws are from time to time, to target certain groups. If you look back over time, would those that marched for CND have been classified as holding extreme views because they wanted to remove nuclear arms.

Dr Shafi is a bit of a hypocrite then as he subscribes to beliefs that say any Muslim who leaves the faith should be killed. It is always amusing to see so called Community leaders extolling liberal western values when many aspects of their religion are diametrically opposed to this way of life.
 


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