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Rail Delays - Broken (literally) down train at Battersea



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HawkTheSeagull

New member
Jan 31, 2012
9,122
Eastbourne
For those who are delayed coming home this evening, and/or love a good railway related cock-up, here is the cause. (Picture from Twitter)

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A coupling device between the coaches has (pretty obviously) failed, the train was luckily empty but is now stuck in 2 bits as the brakes have jammed on so disruption will last for a while.

I believe this emoji was made for things like this - :facepalm:
 






Norman Potting

Norman Potting

Well-known member
Nov 5, 2006
13,967
Sussex, Sussex not by the sea and actually nearer
Southern are trialling slip coach working but didn't pick a good place or time to do it. The anoraks among you will know what I mean, commiserations to the commuters out there.
 


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Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
23,830
GOSBTS
And surprise surprise Southern staff have all gone into hiding at Victora.
 








Beach Hut

Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
71,964
Living In a Box
Added 30 minutes to my journey tonight
 


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West Hoathly Seagull

Honorary Ruffian
Aug 26, 2003
3,540
Sharpthorne/SW11
Judging by the picture, the broken down train is on the slow lines, so I don't know why it should be affecting the Brighton line. Fortunately I am staying at my flat tonight. When I got off at Clapham Junction, Platform 13 was rammed and the indicator board said a train was nearly an hour late. Even if they send the slow stuff down the main line, it shouldn't cause that heavy a delay. Hawk - any ideas?
 




perseus

perseus

Broad Blue & White stripe
Jul 5, 2003
23,456
Sūþseaxna
Norman Potting said:
Southern are trialling slip coach working but didn't pick a good place or time to do it. The anoraks among you will know what I mean, commiserations to the commuters out there.
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Older anoraks.

I think slipping coaches went out with the sixties moderniation plan to have all multiple units, not locomotive hauled. Push 'n pull. ???
 


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theboybilly

Well-known member
Apr 25, 2013
6,177
Along the Shoreham Road in er, Shoreham
They would have had to block the Down Slow line (nearest the camera) to allow maintenance staff to deal with re-attaching the two portions of train, so everything will have had to use the Fast Lines north of Clapham Junction at some point. The points from Fast to Slow and Slow to Fast (in either direction) use the same track (ie only one train can use that portion of track at a time - a single chord if you will) so that a train crossing from Down Fast to Down Slow (or even carrying on into Clapham on the Fast) may be held up by trains crossing in the other direction. This unfortunately takes time and just adds to the congestion.
 


LamieRobertson

LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
46,675
SHOREHAM BY SEA
theboybilly said:
They would have had to block the Down Slow line (nearest the camera) to allow maintenance staff to deal with re-attaching the two portions of train, so everything will have had to use the Fast Lines north of Clapham Junction at some point. The points from Fast to Slow and Slow to Fast (in either direction) use the same track (ie only one train can use that portion of track at a time - a single chord if you will) so that a train crossing from Down Fast to Down Slow (or even carrying on into Clapham on the Fast) may be held up by trains crossing in the other direction. This unfortunately takes time and just adds to the congestion.
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Whatever he said
 








beorhthelm

beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,303
8ace said:
Can you explain please Norman.
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basically one line out takes out 6 as they shuffle about. what i dont understand is the length this issues take to resolve, especially something apparently simply mechanical. i saw an alert this at 15:00 but rocking up at ~1845 it was still delaying everything to Clapham, with about one train leaving out of 10 in 10-15 min. and yes, the managment no where to be seen and no communication on what/when/where anything will run, just perpetual "the 18.. train to .. is delayed". they need to do their "meet the manangers" only on days when there is problems, not Friday mornings.
 




surrey jim

surrey jim

Not in Surrey
Aug 2, 2005
18,093
Bevendean
Norman Potting said:
Southern are trialling slip coach working but didn't pick a good place or time to do it. The anoraks among you will know what I mean, commiserations to the commuters out there.
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perseus said:
Older anoraks.

I think slipping coaches went out with the sixties moderniation plan to have all multiple units, not locomotive hauled. Push 'n pull. ???
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or those with kids who watch Thomas the Tank Engine. Duck has slip coaches.
 






smudge

smudge

Up the Albion!
Jul 8, 2003
7,368
On the ocean wave
Was in the smoke for passport renewal yesterday & got caught in that. Crammed in trying to get out of Victoria.
 




Norman Potting

Norman Potting

Well-known member
Nov 5, 2006
13,967
Sussex, Sussex not by the sea and actually nearer


8ace

8ace

Banned
Jul 21, 2003
23,811
Brighton
beorhthelm said:
basically one line out takes out 6 as they shuffle about. what i dont understand is the length this issues take to resolve, especially something apparently simply mechanical. i saw an alert this at 15:00 but rocking up at ~1845 it was still delaying everything to Clapham, with about one train leaving out of 10 in 10-15 min. and yes, the managment no where to be seen and no communication on what/when/where anything will run, just perpetual "the 18.. train to .. is delayed". they need to do their "meet the manangers" only on days when there is problems, not Friday mornings.
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:tumble:
 


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