Safe Standing Poll

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EPSeagull

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Just wondering what everyone's thoughts on the matter were. When Paul Barber was interviewed about it, he didn't say he was in support but also didn't say he was against it.
Just an extra note, many people think Liverpool fans are against the idea but this isn't true. On 'The Anfield Wrap', a poll showed that 97% of Liverpool fans were in support of it.

 

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theboybilly

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I'm all for it. I'm sure it would make for a better atmosphere at grounds

 

Thunder Bolt

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Yes, there should be a choice. Let those who want to stand, stand, those who want to sit, sit.

 

Return of the Rev

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Against football is far safer since all seaters.

 

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EPSeagull

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Thunder Bolt said:

Yes, there should be a choice. Let those who want to stand, stand, those who want to sit, sit.

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I completely agree. People stand as it is but this is deemed unsafe, so let these people stand safely and those who want to sit can sit

 

Lord Bracknell

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Are you talking about safe standing throughout the stadium, in one stand only, or in part of one stand only? And which stand or stands do you have in mind? And what about visiting supporters?

 

Return of the Rev

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Lord Bracknell said:

Are you talking about safe standing throughout the stadium, in one stand only, or in part of one stand only? And which stand or stands do you have in mind? And what about visiting supporters?

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Also what would be the price reduction?

 

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EPSeagull

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Lord Bracknell said:

Are you talking about safe standing throughout the stadium, in one stand only, or in part of one stand only? And which stand or stands do you have in mind? And what about visiting supporters?

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North stand and South East corner I guess but just the idea of it being introduced, nothing in particular.

 

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EPSeagull

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Return of the Rev said:

Also what would be the price reduction?

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Well it would be reduced but I'm not sure, this was just for opinions rather than details

 

Guy Fawkes

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Return of the Rev said:

Against football is far safer since all seaters.

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How much safer is it in an Englsh teams all seater stadium compared to a safe standing teams ground in Germany?

 

Guy Fawkes

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Return of the Rev said:

Also what would be the price reduction?

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Would it be reduced? I'm not so sure.

If the space per fan remained unchanged for standing vs seating, clubs would be unlikely to reduce prices becaause they could just be reducing their revenue stream whilst increasing costs which occur when they have to remove the seats and put a safe standing system in place instead

 

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EPSeagull

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Guy Fawkes said:

How much safer is it in an Englsh teams all seater stadium compared to a safe standing teams ground in Germany?

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In Germany they don't have the problem of people standing in seated areas due to people having a choice and people don't tend to rip seats out. The atmosphere is also much, much better

 

Guy Fawkes

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EPSeagull said:

In Germany they don't have the problem of people standing in seated areas due to people having a choice and people don't tend to rip seats out. The atmosphere is also much, much better

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And in terms of injuries at football grounds (as meant by my original question) how many more injuries have to be treated which were caused as a result of people standing in a safe standing ground compared to injuries treated by seated spectators in the UK caused by sitting during a match.

 

Thunder Bolt

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Guy Fawkes said:

And in terms of injuries at football grounds (as meant by my original question) how many more injuries have to be treated which were caused as a result of people standing in a safe standing ground compared to injuries treated by seated spectators in the UK caused by sitting during a match.

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All the safe standing facts from the Football Supporters' Federation
http://www.fsf.org.uk/campaigns/safe-standing/safe-standing-facts/

 

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EPSeagull

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Guy Fawkes said:

And in terms of injuries at football grounds (as meant by my original question) how many more injuries have to be treated which were caused as a result of people standing in a safe standing ground compared to injuries treated by seated spectators in the UK caused by sitting during a match.

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I don't know, but as far as my research goes there are no reported injuries or safety issues due to standing in Germany in recent years.

 

Guy Fawkes

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Thunder Bolt said:

All the safe standing facts from the Football Supporters' Federation
http://www.fsf.org.uk/campaigns/safe-standing/safe-standing-facts/

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EPSeagull said:

I don't know, but as far as my research goes there are no reported injuries or safety issues due to standing in Germany in recent years.

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My posts were n response to ths

Return of the Rev said:

Against football is far safer since all seaters.

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My pont was safe standng or seating in a ground doesn't affect safety however an increased likelyhood of injury is used by some as a reason to oppose safe standing (see RotR) despite having nothing to prove it is any less safe other than an ill informed opinion which is why i was trying to get him to explain why they think it is less safe?

 

Thunder Bolt

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Guy Fawkes said:

My posts were n response to ths


My pont was safe standng or seating in a ground doesn't affect safety however an increased likelyhood of injury is used by some as a reason to oppose safe standing (see RotR) despite having nothing to prove it is any less safe other than an ill informed opinion which is why i was trying to get him to explain why they think it is less safe?

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RotR is usually on a wind up.

 

drew

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EPSeagull said:

Well it would be reduced but I'm not sure, this was just for opinions rather than details

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Why would it be reduced? Surely those that want to stand should be contributing to the cost of stadium alterations to accommodate them, the cost of the legal process as this is contrary to the original planning application etc.. Might see how keen people are to stand if it is going to cost them more each match than it did when they just bought a seat?

 

The Legend that IS Lawro

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All down to consideration for fellow fans. Was in the disabled section away at Reading a few seasons back, the fans directly in front of the wheelchairs felt it necessary to stand and were most put out when asked to sit since the fans behind them could not see.

 

drew

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EPSeagull said:

I don't know, but as far as my research goes there are no reported injuries or safety issues due to standing in Germany in recent years.

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Does your research extend to include reference to the increasing violence at German football and whether that is linked to people being able to stand at football?