[Football] Have Manchester United conspired to fail to sell De Gea to Real Madrid?

Bozza · Sep 1, 2015

Funny if so...

David De Gea's proposed £29m move from Manchester United to Real Madrid has collapsed because the necessary paperwork was not submitted in time.

No official announcement has yet been made by either club.

As part of the deal to sell De Gea to Real, United were planning to bring Keylor Navas in the opposite direction.

There is no precedent for Spanish clubs being given additional time to conclude transfers as there is in England.

Blame for the failure to complete the deal is already being apportioned.

Reports in Spain say United were responsible and that their paperwork arrived at Spanish Football Federation headquarters one minute later than the 23:00 BST deadline.
United say they have a receipt that proves they submitted the relevant documents on time.

Triggaaar · Sep 1, 2015

What would be the point? If they didn't want to sell, they could just say no. If they're seen to have deliberately bodged it, I can't imagine their player will be too happy, which can't be good for utd.

Mental Lental · Sep 1, 2015

Triggaaar said:
What would be the point? If they didn't want to sell, they could just say no. If they're seen to have deliberately bodged it, I can't imagine their player will be too happy, which can't be good for utd.

I think the point is that they not have deliberately bodged it. It may be a genuine brain fart that sees them 29m down and with a very unhappy player on their hands.

In which case I will laugh incessantly.

Justice · Sep 1, 2015

Van gaal is making a right mess of things, making excellent viewing :thumbsup:

fat old seagull · Sep 1, 2015

Mental Lental said:
I think the point is that they not have deliberately bodged it. It may be a genuine brain fart that sees them 29m down and with a very unhappy player on their hands.

In which case I will laugh incessantly.

And I think I'll join you!

though not if you're in bed! :nono:

KZNSeagull · Sep 1, 2015

Well that would be utterly marvellous!

fat old seagull · Sep 1, 2015

Justice said:
Van gaal is making a right mess of things, making excellent viewing

I'm not sure what peeps have against Van Gaal, unless it's the way he looks, his miserable persona, his higher than mighty attitude or just that he's .....Man U.

Put me down for all of that, please.

Hamilton · Sep 1, 2015

Does seem odd. They certainly appear to have dragged their heels.

beorhthelm · Sep 1, 2015

theres no reason this deal, which has been on the cards for weeks, should be completed in the dieing minutes of the transfer window. so stinks of being scuppered. send the details at 22:58, knowing full well they will take a few minutes to through and processed the other end.

Rod Marsh · Sep 1, 2015

The spanish royalty will get involved no doubt and push the deal through..

Worried Man Blues · Sep 1, 2015

Nobody expected the Spanish acquisition

studio150 · Sep 1, 2015

Worried Man Blues said:
Nobody expected the Spanish acquisition

Our chief weapon is surprise....

Vegas Seagull · Sep 1, 2015

Madrid Couldn't open the documents, different versions of Windows...

Wardy · Sep 1, 2015

The thing that gets me is that in this age of digital signatures multi-million pound deals are still being done by fax. While I know that legally (at least in this country) an email is not proof of delivery while a fax is, surely in the world of football there would be something where you could email the documents across then follow that up with the actual paper work.

Seagull58 · Sep 1, 2015

Wardy said:
The thing that gets me is that in this age of digital signatures multi-million pound deals are still being done by fax. While I know that legally (at least in this country) an email is not proof of delivery while a fax is, surely in the world of football there would be something where you could email the documents across then follow that up with the actual paper work.

Digital signatures are used in many business situations. Using a fax machine in 2015 is just pathetic.

Marty___Mcfly · Sep 1, 2015

Could they still send De Gea to Madrid on loan?

Thunder Bolt · Sep 1, 2015

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Wardy · Sep 1, 2015

Seagull58 said:
Digital signatures are used in many business situations. Using a fax machine in 2015 is just pathetic.

When I said legally I meant in the world of lawyers. Anything to do with court papers have to be sent either in hard copy or via fax. Though I can see no logical reason why a football players contract would need to be done this way.

Triggaaar · Sep 1, 2015

Mental Lental said:
I think the point is that they not have deliberately bodged it.

That's not what Bozza said, he asked if they'd conspired to fail.

Wardy said:
When I said legally I meant in the world of lawyers. Anything to do with court papers have to be sent either in hard copy or via fax.

You can scan documents and email them, which would satisfy a court.

Wardy · Sep 1, 2015

Triggaaar said:
That's not what Bozza said, he asked if they'd conspired to fail.

You can scan documents and email them, which would satisfy a court.

Seems you are correct. Law must have changed in the last 7 years or so because the view was that an email was never proof of receipt while a letter and a fax where.

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