Referee for Forest & Changes to the Offside Law.

Kuipers Supporters Club · Aug 3, 2015

Keith Stroud - seem to remember he was the ref when we played Forest on the final day.

(Also did the 0-0 vs. Blackpool last season, as well as Watford (H), Ipswich (H) and Bournemouth (A)

Ian Cooper and Daniel Leach
Fourth Official Brendan Malone

In other news:

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/9933613/rule-change-will-simplify-game

"In recent seasons, players have been allowed to occupy offside positions without necessarily being penalised depending on whether they were thought to be actively involved in play or not.

Now they will be punished if they clearly attempt to play a ball close to them when their actions have an impact on an opponent’s ability to play the ball."

:albion2:

Seasider78 · Aug 3, 2015

Why can't they just go back to the tried tested and clear rule of being beyond the last defender. Feel for the officials trying to interpret this nonsense during a high tempo game

BensGrandad · Aug 3, 2015

Seasider78 said:
Why can't they just go back to the tried tested and clear rule of being beyond the last defender. Feel for the officials trying to interpret this nonsense during a high tempo game

That is too simple. As Brian Clough once said if a player wasnt influencing play he shouldnt be on the pitch.

Herr Tubthumper · Aug 3, 2015

Brighton4Cambridge3 said:
"In recent seasons, players have been allowed to occupy offside positions without necessarily being penalised depending on whether they were thought to be actively involved in play or not.

Now they will be punished if they clearly attempt to play a ball close to them when their actions have an impact on an opponent’s ability to play the ball."

I'm not sure I fully understand this. And what is "close"?

Sheebo · Aug 3, 2015

So if you're off side & obstruct an opponent running to impact the ball it's now flagged... I think.

Sheebo · Aug 3, 2015

Herr Tubthumper said:
I'm not sure I fully understand this. And what is "close"?

So wishy washy isn't it!? All this pathetic amount of money in football and we change the laws to not make much sense!

Kuipers Supporters Club · Aug 3, 2015

Herr Tubthumper said:
I'm not sure I fully understand this. And what is "close"?

The new law says:

A player in an offside position if he:

"Makes an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball"

THE SCENARIO: United have a free kick on the right which Mata takes and it swings in towards goal. At the point the ball is played, Marcos Rojo is in an offside position and he attempts to head the cross in but misses. Nobody else connects with the ball and Mata’s effort goes straight in, with a goal awarded.

THIS SEASON’S DECISION: Goal is disallowed.

Problem is - this is going to be so subjective. Offside law was a lot easier before they changed it, but it made the game a lot more stop start.

Kuipers Supporters Club · Aug 3, 2015

sheebo said:
So wishy washy isn't it!? All this pathetic amount of money in football and we change the laws to not make much sense!

You'll love this then Sheebs, Senior Officials are told not to give foul throws as it slows down the enjoyment of the game. :lolol:

Steve in Japan · Aug 3, 2015

Brighton4Cambridge3 said:
You'll love this then Sheebs, Senior Officials are told not to give foul throws as it slows down the enjoyment of the game.

Always a good laugh when a highly paid professional can't do a throw-in without messing it up

Gullflyinghigh · Aug 3, 2015

Seasider78 said:
Why can't they just go back to the tried tested and clear rule of being beyond the last defender. Feel for the officials trying to interpret this nonsense during a high tempo game

Plus the legion of pundits ready to stick the boot in after watching every conceivable angle is super slow motion...

Herr Tubthumper · Aug 3, 2015

Brighton4Cambridge3 said:
The new law says:

A player in an offside position if he:

"Makes an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball"

THE SCENARIO: United have a free kick on the right which Mata takes and it swings in towards goal. At the point the ball is played, Marcos Rojo is in an offside position and he attempts to head the cross in but misses. Nobody else connects with the ball and Mata’s effort goes straight in, with a goal awarded.

THIS SEASON’S DECISION: Goal is disallowed.

Problem is - this is going to be so subjective. Offside law was a lot easier before they changed it, but it made the game a lot more stop start.

What if Rojo's move didn't impact the ability of an opponent? How can this be determined and then explained? As you say it's bizarrely subjective.

Juan Albion · Aug 3, 2015

Time to scrap offside altogether.

Everest · Aug 3, 2015

sheebo said:
So if you're off side & obstruct an opponent running to impact the ball it's now flagged... I think.

Basically that was the law last season anyway

“interfering with an opponent” means preventing an opponent from
playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s
line of vision or challenging an opponent for the ball"

LamieRobertson · Aug 3, 2015

Slightly off topic..but are they now allowing the ref's assistants to make decisions ..more than half the time i wonder why they bother turning up

Green Cross Code Man · Aug 3, 2015

Juan Albion said:
Time to scrap offside altogether.

That's an interesting point. I wonder why it was introduced in the first place. It would simplify football and remove a lot of controversy.

Sheebo · Aug 3, 2015

Brighton4Cambridge3 said:
You'll love this then Sheebs, Senior Officials are told not to give foul throws as it slows down the enjoyment of the game.

Christ on a bike :lol:

Sheebo · Aug 3, 2015

Everest said:
Basically that was the law last season anyway

“interfering with an opponent” means preventing an opponent from
playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s
line of vision or challenging an opponent for the ball"

Yeh I guess it was!

Triggaaar · Aug 3, 2015

Brighton4Cambridge3 said:
You'll love this then Sheebs, Senior Officials are told not to give foul throws as it slows down the enjoyment of the game.

Steve in Japan said:
Always a good laugh when a highly paid professional can't do a throw-in without messing it up

I think we should keep quiet and be grateful, given that Bruno's still in the team.

Triggaaar · Aug 3, 2015

Green Cross Code Man said:
That's an interesting point. I wonder why it was introduced in the first place. It would simplify football and remove a lot of controversy.

Sam Allardyce would be in heaven. Do we want the beautiful game, or do we want 7 foot goal hangers?

El Sid · Aug 3, 2015

Juan Albion said:
Time to scrap offside altogether.

13 a side and each team must leave 1 player in the opponents box at all times and with rolling subs like rugby league

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