Gus or Vicente - Hypothetical

StonehamPark · Jul 19, 2015

What would you prefer:

Gus to replace Hughton and bring in 4 of his own targets.

Hughton to stay in charge, bring in Vicente* for one season plus 3 other targets.

Edit: *For anyone who is having difficulty understanding, let's imagine that Vicente was in the same fitness condition as 3 years ago (yes possible injuries etc) and able to play in the same position as before.

KZNSeagull · Jul 19, 2015

Vicente to do what exactly?

Lurchy · Jul 19, 2015

StonehamPark said:
Hughton to stay in charge, bring in Vicente for one season plus 3 other targets.

You are aware that Vicente has retired from playing Football right?

StonehamPark · Jul 19, 2015

Lurchy said:
You are aware that Vicente has retired from playing Football right?

Yes. That's why I used the word Hypothetical in the Thread Title.

Icy Gull · Jul 19, 2015

Not that I want him back but Gus is a better manager than Hughton on what I've see so far. I was very underwhelmed by the way Hughton set us up to play once we were nearly safe and even more underwhelmed that he brought Leon Best here and failed to motivate him at all. Doesn't bode well for this season, even more so if Bloom fails to deliver players with pace and creativity by the close of the transfer window.

Stat Brother · Jul 19, 2015

Lurchy said:
You are aware that Vicente has retired from playing Football right?

Pretty much the moment he left Sussex.

Which makes all the 'I could have played, but 'they' wouldn't let me' bleating seem a little misplaced.

Oh and Gus back as manager without the player quality to cover up his managerial inadequacies, would be a car crash 1000 times bigger than the last one.

Hughton is the man for a shite squad.
I just have my doubts he's the man for an arse-kicking promotion chasing squad.

Albumen · Jul 19, 2015

So get rid of a manager that has yet to have a pre-season and saved us from relegation and replace him with a moany manager that can't work with a small budget or fit in a moany ex winger who has to play (when fit) out of place because he's lost his speed?

What a sh!t sandwich of a poll.

StonehamPark · Jul 19, 2015

Albumen said:
So get rid of a manager that has yet to have a pre-season and saved us from relegation

Did he

As far as I could see, we played just as dire under Hughton as Hyppia.
Possibly lucky with a couple of results.

Albumen · Jul 19, 2015

StonehamPark said:
Did he

Were we relegated? I thought we stayed up with two games to spare.
We were in the relegation zone when Hyppia left, and we were out of the relegation zone on goal difference when he was appointed.
It's a bit early for sh!t tainted specs.

StonehamPark · Jul 19, 2015

Albumen said:
Were we relegated? I thought we stayed up with two games to spare.
We were in the relegation zone when Hyppia left, and we were out of the relegation zone on goal difference when he was appointed.
It's a bit early for sh!t tainted specs.

As I say, maybe lucky with a couple of results and even luckier with the total shitness of a couple of teams above us in the table when Hyppia left.

From where I was sitting, I couldn't see much improvement between the two appointments, but to each his own eh.

sdmartin1 · Jul 19, 2015

StonehamPark said:
As I say, maybe lucky with a couple of results and even luckier with the total shitness of a couple of teams above us in the table when Hyppia left.

From where I was sitting, I couldn't see much improvement between the two appointments, but to each his own eh.

Mourinho wouldn't have got us much higher. Our squad was shite thanks to Burke's ineptitude, end of. We still need a fair few improvements to be competitive next season, can't blame Hughton for that.

Albumen · Jul 19, 2015

StonehamPark said:
As I say, maybe lucky with a couple of results and even luckier with the total shitness of a couple of teams above us in the table when Hyppia left.

From where I was sitting, I couldn't see much improvement between the two appointments, but to each his own eh.

I saw a fair bit of difference. Houghton bought Kayal, suddenly we had a midfield. We also had a at least one FB to help out the CBs when we lost it in attack. What he didn't have was a decent striker, and you can only blame the board and background staff for that.
Anyway, if we're languishing near the bottom of the league this year you can say you're right.

StonehamPark · Jul 19, 2015

Albumen said:
Anyway, if we're languishing near the bottom of the league this year you can say you're right.

Hopefully not, I'd rather be eating humble pie.

fat old seagull · Jul 19, 2015

Oh Christ not another Gus thread! I thought we'd buried that ghost, when he not only got drummed out of Soonderland, but got savaged by his squad for his training and negative tactics.

Icy Gull · Jul 19, 2015

fat old seagull said:
Oh Christ not another Gus thread! I thought we'd buried that ghost, when he not only got drummed out of Soonderland, but got savaged by his squad for his training and negative tactics.

His stock has certainly plummeted from where it was just before kick off at that fateful play off semi final second leg.

He was very proud of the fact that Sunderland were the only team to have stopped Chelsea scoring at the time he was sacked though.

We don't hear much of Gus the pundit these days either.

sir albion · Jul 19, 2015

Christ these idiotic threads never end....GET OVER IT FFS

JBizzle · Jul 19, 2015

StonehamPark said:
As I say, maybe lucky with a couple of results and even luckier with the total shitness of a couple of teams above us in the table when Hyppia left.

From where I was sitting, I couldn't see much improvement between the two appointments, but to each his own eh.

Nah, you simply cannot judge Hughton on last season. He kept us and did his job. The players he bought in on loan were clearly stop gaps and the squad he inherited was bereft of confidence. The players signed look a vast improvement on last season already and he seems to want to be more attacking.

I cannot wait until the season gets going...

goldstone · Jul 19, 2015

There have been some stupid polls on here. This ranks as one of the most stupid.

I would not have Gus back in a million years. He screwed up the best opportunity we are likley to have for a very long time to reach the Premier League, and he hardly set the world alight at Sunderland. So why would we even consider having him back here?

And Vicente has retired from football!

When is a poll not a poll? When it's as ridiculous as this one.

Rookie · Jul 19, 2015

JBizzle said:
Nah, you simply cannot judge Hughton on last season. He kept us and did his job. The players he bought in on loan were clearly stop gaps and the squad he inherited was bereft of confidence. The players signed look a vast improvement on last season already and he seems to want to be more attacking.

I cannot wait until the season gets going...

Of course you can judge Hughton on last season. He had from January to get the team playing his way and bring in his own players. Said it before that I fail to believe bloom said you only have to save us, don't worry about the style of play or wasting money on unnecessary loan players.

As for the poll, it's Gus for me (or first choice would be Oscar)

Barham's tash · Jul 19, 2015

sir albion said:
Christ these idiotic threads never end....GET OVER IT FFS

Yep im not normally one for joining in with these kinds of things but jesus christ. GET OVER IT (said in the manner of the assembled knights at the end of the Holy Grail.)

Seriously. Might as well start a poll where the choices are:

Would Britain have been better if Hitler had won the war?
No leave it as it is, it's ok thanks
Or would you rather have Mussolini alongside Napoleon to give it some pep in midfield.

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