Trade Union reform.

Leekbrookgull · Jul 15, 2015

Yes,i am a Union member and yes i have been on strike through the currant voting system whilst working for a UK Listed company and althought some ballots have been small to be told by any M/P of any party this has to change sounds reasonable on the face of it until you see the figures,why 40% in favour on a turnout of 50%. Just how many M/Ps get 40% of the popular vote ?

Norman Baker suck my lozenge · Jul 15, 2015

Hampster Gull · Jul 15, 2015

The 40% is an odd number to pull out of the hat. Why not 50% for example

Westdene Seagull · Jul 15, 2015

Leekbrookgull said:
Yes,i am a Union member and yes i have been on strike through the currant voting system whilst working for a UK Listed company and althought some ballots have been small to be told by any M/P of any party this has to change sounds reasonable on the face of it until you see the figures,why 40% in favour on a turnout of 50%. Just how many M/Ps get 40% of the popular vote ?

I'm not convinced that you are comparing apples with apples. If no candidate for MP gets 40% then how is the constituency meant to be represented in Parliament ? What if no MP gets that majority - is the UK meant to run without a government and a parliament ?

Now if a Union doesn't get 40% for a strike what happens ? Ah, yes, everyone goes about day to day life as normal.

The two situations aren't remotely similar.

Eeyore · Jul 15, 2015

Now the Tories have unchained control expect workers rights to be eroded. Some of us will be liking the EU come the end of this parliament.

Ernest · Jul 15, 2015

The sinister bit is the allowing of agency workers to scab in strikes, if it is about a mandate and the mandate is achieved then why are they allowing scab labour to be bought in ?

Hampster Gull · Jul 15, 2015

Brighton Lines said:
Now the Tories have unchained control expect workers rights to be eroded. Some of us will be liking the EU come the end of this parliament.

Good, you will be asked to vote on it soon and the more wanting in the better

Hampster Gull · Jul 15, 2015

Ernest said:
The sinister bit is the allowing of agency workers to scab in strikes, if it is about a mandate and the mandate is achieved then why are they allowing scab labour to be bought in ?

Scab is a very seventies word and says everything about the hard left

Rookie · Jul 15, 2015

Personally I think it's about time.

Ernest · Jul 15, 2015

Hampster Gull said:
Scab is a very seventies word and says everything about the hard left

And the Tory proposals are back to the 1930's and Nazi Germany which is even worse

Leekbrookgull · Jul 15, 2015

Westdene Seagull said:
I'm not convinced that you are comparing apples with apples. If no candidate for MP gets 40% then how is the constituency meant to be represented in Parliament ? What if no MP gets that majority - is the UK meant to run without a government and a parliament ?

Now if a Union doesn't get 40% for a strike what happens ? Ah, yes, everyone goes about day to day life as normal.

The two situations aren't remotely similar.

Westdene point is for most MP,s 'get in' in or around 32/38 % vote in their favour. Now how in the dam well ask for Unions to get 40% ?

wellquickwoody · Jul 15, 2015

Ernest said:
The sinister bit is the allowing of agency workers to scab in strikes, if it is about a mandate and the mandate is achieved then why are they allowing scab labour to be bought in ?

'Allowing' and 'scab', in the same sentence! Stegosaurus, The Ark, 70's or just history, which one is the best description of you Ernest?

Bozza · Jul 15, 2015

Ernest said:
The sinister bit is the allowing of agency workers to scab in strikes, if it is about a mandate and the mandate is achieved then why are they allowing scab labour to be bought in ?

So, if someone wants to strike they should be permitted to but if someone else wants to work they should not be allowed to?

Beach Hut · Jul 15, 2015

About time I am seriously thinking of resigning from my Union given the recent mandate they have passed internally where higher earners pay more than lower earners in subs.

Mr Bridger · Jul 15, 2015

Beach Hut said:
About time I am seriously thinking of resigning from my Union given the recent mandate they have passed internally where higher earners pay more than lower earners in subs.

Is it the cubs?

Marty___Mcfly · Jul 15, 2015

I take this will be the next thing the SNP will vote against? In which case it won't happen..

Bozza · Jul 15, 2015

Marty___Mcfly said:
I take this will be the next thing the SNP will vote against? In which case it won't happen..

It will happen if the Tories want it to.

The hunting reform was a 'free vote' and there were sufficient Tory rebels such that the bill would have been defeated with the SNP also voting against.

I suspect on a matter such as this, the Tory majority, regardless of being slim, will be sufficient to see it passed.

Westdene Seagull · Jul 15, 2015

Leekbrookgull said:
Westdene point is for most MP,s 'get in' in or around 32/38 % vote in their favour. Now how in the dam well ask for Unions to get 40% ?

But I'll repeat, the two situations aren't remotely similar.

beorhthelm · Jul 15, 2015

Norman Baker suck my lozenge said:
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well done, Godwin'd in second post.

Questions · Jul 15, 2015

Norman Baker suck my lozenge said:

You make him out to be all bad.

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