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Steve McClaren bans Newcastle United players from swearing



TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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"The former England coach, who was appointed at St James' Park on 10 June, had a similar policy at his previous club Derby County.

His assistant Paul Simpson - who worked alongside McClaren at Derby - explained earlier this year that the policy was about maintaining discipline.

"If you're ranting and raving and swearing, you haven't got control," Simpson said in February.

"We say you are losing it so you may as well come and sit in the dugout."

He also told BBC Radio Derby at the time: "We try not to swear if we possibly can, and we certainly don't use foul and abusive language in the technical area when we are talking to officials - which seems to be the common trend."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33476459

A step in the right direction - hopefully the league will see some sense and enforce it across every league - but I somewhat doubt it, as it will be hard to actually enforce
 




Gullflyinghigh

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Apr 23, 2012
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I'm sure it won't be long before someone complains that it's taking PASSION out of the game or some other rubbish.

Not a bad idea either way.
 






Prince Monolulu

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Oct 2, 2013
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OvingdeanSeagull

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Jul 8, 2012
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More than occasional swearing is the verbal equivalent of dropping litter; only the ignorant or stupid do it.

Ridiculous argument. Stephen Fry sums it up here:



I don't see the point in what McLaren is doing. If people would prefer to swear to release their stress/frustration, then forcing them to hold in their pent up emotions isn't gonna help. If anyone is genuinely offended by swearing then they are quite simply, an over sensitive ****.
 


portlock seagull

Why? Why us?
Jul 28, 2003
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Ridiculous argument. Stephen Fry sums it up here:



I don't see the point in what McLaren is doing. If people would prefer to swear to release their stress/frustration, then forcing them to hold in their pent up emotions isn't gonna help. If anyone is genuinely offended by swearing then they are quite simply, an over sensitive ****.


Missed Linc Imps point completely! More than occasional, MORE THAN...
 


TomandJerry

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Footballers have a responsibility to remain professional - swearing isn't professional
 




OvingdeanSeagull

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Missed Linc Imps point completely! More than occasional, MORE THAN...

Depends what you mean by occasional. I personally don't see a problem with almost constant swearing, as long as it makes sense and is used correctly within a sentence. As Fry says, it's not always or even ever necessary, but it is in no way an indication of a lack of intellect, and it can help add power and emotion to almost any sentence.
 


Mowgli37

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Jan 13, 2013
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Ridiculous argument. Stephen Fry sums it up here:



I don't see the point in what McLaren is doing. If people would prefer to swear to release their stress/frustration, then forcing them to hold in their pent up emotions isn't gonna help. If anyone is genuinely offended by swearing then they are quite simply, an over sensitive ****.


I have seen that video endlessly wheeled out when the topic of swearing comes up and whilst I agree with Fry to the extent that some are over-sensitive about swearing, would you go dropping the c-bomb in every sentence regardless of who you're speaking to or the situation? I do disagree with McClaren by the way.
 


OvingdeanSeagull

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I have seen that video endlessly wheeled out when the topic of swearing comes up and whilst I agree with Fry to the extent that some are over-sensitive about swearing, would you go dropping the c-bomb in every sentence regardless of who you're speaking to or the situation? I do disagree with McClaren by the way.

Obviously you have to be mindful of who you are talking to, and there are times when swearing is not appropriate. But during a competitive football game? Just ridiculous in my opinion.
 




Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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Obviously you have to be mindful of who you are talking to, and there are times when swearing is not appropriate. But during a competitive football game? Just ridiculous in my opinion.
You couldn't have been sat in the family stand when Leon Best screamed a long and disgusting verbal tirade at the linesman.

Completely uncalled for, and so loud he was clearly audible from halfway up the bottom tier.
 


portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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Depends what you mean by occasional. I personally don't see a problem with almost constant swearing, as long as it makes sense and is used correctly within a sentence. As Fry says, it's not always or even ever necessary, but it is in no way an indication of a lack of intellect, and it can help add power and emotion to almost any sentence.

But it's not acceptable otherwise this thread wouldn't exist. If you need to swear that frequently to express yourself I'd say you've got issues including a poor education.
 






Morvangull

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Oct 19, 2010
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Swearing regularly, that some people seem to do in nearly every sentence, surely negates the very impact of using such words. Also I believe that the English language has such an enormous amount of words that using the few swear words regularly shows a poor understanding of our language,
 




The Sock of Poskett

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Jun 12, 2009
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Good work Schteve. Though I'd imagine international players and any Geordie lads in the squad might be able to get away with it via being unintelligible ...
 


Dorset Seagull

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I have a retail business in a converted barn and our landlord used to farm the land. On more than one occasion I have had to apologise to customers when he has popped his head in to apologise the fibre broadband he had installed was f%*ked because that F@cking router they put in was playing up again.

I guess it's all to do with the environment you have been brought up in
 






BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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Depends what you mean by occasional. I personally don't see a problem with almost constant swearing, as long as it makes sense and is used correctly within a sentence. As Fry says, it's not always or even ever necessary, but it is in no way an indication of a lack of intellect, and it can help add power and emotion to almost any sentence.

To my mind your argument contradicts itself , the more you use it the more you lose the power and emotion from it.
 


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