The day that Britain resigned as a global power

Herr Tubthumper · May 28, 2015

As David Cameron arrives in Riga, a columnist for the Washington Post writes about the inward turn of the UK

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...tain-resigned-as-a-global-power-10269098.html

Westdene Seagull · May 28, 2015

I know you enjoy posting stuff that bashes the UK but strange don't you think that the American who wrote the article failed to mention that only three members of NATO hit the 2% target currently - the UK being one of them and the other two being Estonia and the US. The US being by far the biggest contributor and whom has been reported as being somewhat bitter that they pick up the biggest tab. Call me old fashioned but I'd rather our money was spent on health and education than defence.

Oh, Germany spent a pathetic and embarrassing 1.14% of GDP of defence last year and will spend just over 1% this year ( i.e. a reduction ). And they look rather pathetic in the NATO league table :

Member	Budget	%GDP
US	$582.4bn	3.6
UK	$55bn	2.07
Estonia	$430m	2
Poland	$10.4bn	1.9
Norway	$5.8bn	1.58
France	$40.9bn	1.5
Romania	$2bn	1.4
Bulgaria	$604m	1.3
Italy	$17.3bn	1.2
Germany	$44.3bn	1.14
Canada	$14.3bn	1
Netherlands	$8.7bn	1
Latvia	$252m	0.9
Hungary	$1.08bn	0.79
Lithuania	$359m	0.78

Buzzer · May 28, 2015

Herr Tubthumper said:
As David Cameron arrives in Riga, a columnist for the Washington Post writes about the inward turn of the UK

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...tain-resigned-as-a-global-power-10269098.html

Do you EVER get bored of running Britain down? It's more than a hobby, it's an obsession with you. Maybe if you told us what this country did that was so beastly to you, we could all collectively apologise and then perhaps you could move on with your life and let us live ours here in the UK. All this self-loathing really isn't good for you.

Bry Nylon · May 28, 2015

Buzzer said:
Do you EVER get bored of running Britain down? It's more than a hobby, it's an obsession with you. Maybe if you told us what this country did that was so beastly to you, we could all collectively apologise and then perhaps you could move on with your life and let us live ours here in the UK. All this self-loathing really isn't good for you.

Just a shame that the Board only permits me to give x1 Thumbs up.

Herr Tubthumper · May 28, 2015

Buzzer said:
Do you EVER get bored of running Britain down? It's more than a hobby, it's an obsession with you. Maybe if you told us what this country did that was so beastly to you, we could all collectively apologise and then perhaps you could move on with your life and let us live ours here in the UK. All this self-loathing really isn't good for you.

Er, I have moved on and I do let you live your life in the UK.

Diablo · May 28, 2015

Surely Germany are not allowed to rebuild effective Army after WW2..They are merely allowed to make up numbers and support us and other European Global Powers.

Herr Tubthumper · May 28, 2015

Buzzer said:
Do you EVER get bored of running Britain down? It's more than a hobby, it's an obsession with you. Maybe if you told us what this country did that was so beastly to you, we could all collectively apologise and then perhaps you could move on with your life and let us live ours here in the UK. All this self-loathing really isn't good for you.

Do you ever get bored of repeatedly having the exact same argument with DaveFromPrague?

Buzzer · May 28, 2015

Herr Tubthumper said:
Do you ever get bored of repeatedly having the exact same argument with DaveFromPrague?

Yeah, I'd have had a second go at replying after that frankly weak as you like first response but this one isn't much better. Third time lucky?

Bozza · May 28, 2015

Lefty moaning at Cool Dave focusing on the NHS. You couldn't make this stuff up.

Gregory2Smith1 · May 28, 2015

it probably goes back to letting the Russians get to Berlin first

The Spanish · May 28, 2015

Herr Tubthumper said:
Er, I have moved on and I do let you live your life in the UK.

Yep and even though it was bought to its knees by the country you have adopted, and their collective murderous lunacy, it can still look itself in the eye, even though it cost us everything and we are indeed a shadow of our former selves. To this day not financially bullying small Mediterranean islands and Balkan countries either, yet another reason to be proud.

skipper734 · May 28, 2015

Britain was nearly brought low by shenanigans in America. I'm sure nobody that lives here, believes we shouldn't get our own house in order before telling every other country how to fix theirs.

beorhthelm · May 28, 2015

this is what the left wing of UK politics have wanted for decades, so they must be quite pleased. funny old game.

Mr Bridger · May 28, 2015

Mustafa said:
Selling off Britain's assets and creating an economic underclass is SUCH great thinking from this government.

It's going to be even more spectacular once Dave's billionaires mates jump ship.

This government is destroying this country - I pray to God that the damage they are doing is reversible, I love this country, I don't want to have to leave.

Go now Mustafa, quick before the country blows up!

Diablo · May 28, 2015

Mustafa said:
It's going to be even more spectacular once Dave's billionaires mates jump ship.

You are right ...If as you say Daves billionaires jump ship..it will be left to poorer members of society to pay more to support NHS,Schools,Benefits etc..

Buzzer · May 28, 2015

Mustafa said:
Selling off Britain's assets and creating an economic underclass is SUCH great thinking from this government.

It's going to be even more spectacular once Dave's billionaires mates jump ship.

This government is destroying this country - I pray to God that the damage they are doing is reversible, I love this country, I don't want to have to leave.

You silly sausage. You've just gone on one of your template rants without even reading the article that we're all referring to. It's about Britain cutting its spending on military and reducing its involvement in world conflicts. Less money spent policing the world means more money for the people of Britain, we create fewer enemies abroad, fewer home-grown terrorists as a by-product and further distances us from our imperial past. Now which of those things have you got a problem with*?

*If you DO choose to leave then we'll understand. We'll all miss you of course but, you know - if it's what you really want then we wouldn't want to stop you.

looney · May 28, 2015

Another non dom expat preaching etc etc etc...

The Spanish · May 28, 2015

looney said:
Another non dom expat preaching etc etc etc...

We could discuss the reasons behind Germany's reduction in military spending since their peak in military strength as well, that's a far more disturbing story. We could discuss their current economic strength being based on mind bogglingly huge US hand outs after they had orchestrated the genocide of millions of Europeans, the benefits of which they are now bullying other European country's with.

I can take digs from America, France, the Aussies, no problem. Top Bantz. But from Germany? Nope, not right.

Beach Hut · May 28, 2015

Herr Tubthumper said:
As David Cameron arrives in Riga, a columnist for the Washington Post writes about the inward turn of the UK

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...tain-resigned-as-a-global-power-10269098.html

Christ on a bike you are exceptionally ****ing boring beyond belief now. It would perhaps be better if a sub NSC forum was created for people who continuously attack the UK. I suppose the biggest irony is you get free speech yet favour a country totally against free speech not that long ago.

pastafarian · May 28, 2015

i am mostly indifferent as to what a washington post columnist or indeed a boxhead thinks of this great nation

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