What should the world do If/When IS raise the ancient site of Palmyra to the ground ?

Uncle Spielberg · May 22, 2015

As this would be a horror against the whole of Humanity. It is site of immense beauty and importance but before it was built before the days of their God, it is a falsehood. I fear this is only a matter of time and it will be utterly heart breaking, religious or not.

If/When this happens and we see it posted on youtube being smashed down and blown up, what should or could the World do ?

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Papa Lazarou · May 22, 2015

Uncle Spielberg said:
As this would be a horror against the whole of Humanity. It is site of immense beauty and importance but before it was built before the days of their God, it is a falsehood. I fear this is only a matter of time and it will be utterly heart breaking, religious or not.

If/When this happens and we see it posted on youtube being smashed down and blown up, what should or could the World do ?

Friday debate

Be sad.

Or, the US bomb one of their holy cities? (Controversial)

deletebeepbeepbeep · May 22, 2015

An absolutely horrifying prospect.

Uncle Spielberg · May 22, 2015

I think it will be a cause for tears, but I fear it is a certainty

The Spanish · May 22, 2015

Uncle Spielberg said:
I think it will be a cause for tears, but I fear it is a certainty

what about the people that live there, more to the point?

hans kraay fan club · May 22, 2015

The Spanish said:
what about the people that live there, more to the point?

This

There is an in depth piece on the threat to Palmyra on the BBC site. There are comments from the local people, bemoaning the fact that 'the West' seems more concerned with the fate of the cultural heritage than that of the human beings who are suffering.

Norman Baker suck my lozenge · May 22, 2015

I would imagine the British government will welcome them home with a open arms,maybe even a ticker tape reception.

Uncle Spielberg · May 22, 2015

The Spanish said:
what about the people that live there, more to the point?

I think concern for both is valid, fair point

The Spanish · May 22, 2015

hans kraay fan club said:
This

There is an in depth piece on the threat to Palmyra on the BBC site. There are comments from the local people, bemoaning the fact that 'the West' seems more concerned with the fate of the cultural heritage than that of the human beings who are suffering.

as idiotic and sad as smashing up antiquities is, to express concern over them while not mentioning the innocent people stuck in a warzone and having recently been occupied by lunatics, grates me more than a little bit.

i have to say watching some of the recent footage of their adolescent vandalism managed to raise a chuckle in spite of it, when they topple a few statues, and almost to a man do it very gingerly and then jump back terrified as they hit the floor. for such tough nuts, pushing over some statues seemed to give them the willies a bit.

knocky1 · May 22, 2015

Palmyra is not inhabited, it is an ancient site. It is 400 yards from Tadmur, which is the town ISIS have taken. They now have access to the site. The atrocities being committed by ISIS and Assad are horrific and are worse than any destruction of historical towns, buildings etc.
It would still be terrible to lose such a site. I feel lucky to have spent a couple of nights camping bang in the middle of Palmyra 20 years back. Had a great 2 weeks visiting areas that are now in ruins and controlled by ISIS. Hard to believe we could just park up the 4WD and camp almost anywhere in Syria then without any problems. Remember being shocked with the 10,000 deaths committed by Assads Dad, in 1990, at Homs where the now ruined water wheels were.

Blue Valkyrie · May 22, 2015

Well a low yield neutron bomb would knock out ISIS in the area, and leave the ruins intact, but some might view that as little extreme..

( insert 'not serious' smiley )

Dr Q · May 22, 2015

Blue Valkyrie said:
Well a low yield neutron bomb would knock out ISIS in the area, and leave the ruins intact, but some might view that as little extreme..

( insert 'not serious' smiley )

Funnily enough, I had thought the same (maybe with a sligthly more than not serius smiley)

Nibble · May 22, 2015

I'd love to see them all killed.

Bevendean Hillbilly · May 22, 2015

You don't "raise something to the ground" Gareth. You raise something from the ground and raze something too it. Tsk.

symyjym · May 22, 2015

It’s the symbolism of destroying world history and heritage. In a peaceful Middle East the local people need sites like that as it is part of their street level economy in tourism. If Islamic State has their way they will only own sand because we will blow up the oil industry when push comes to shove.

Uncle Spielberg · May 22, 2015

Bevendean Hillbilly said:
You don't "raise something to the ground" Gareth. You raise something from the ground and raze something too it. Tsk.

Sincere apologies

Psychobilly freakout · May 22, 2015

Uncle Spielberg said:
If/When this happens and we see it posted on youtube being smashed down and blown up, what should or could the World do ?

Friday debate

Not watch it.... I will be honest, and say I never knew it existed in the first place so my first world answer is don't care about the old blocks of stone or dust whatever it is, now the people that is a very different matter. We should be helping any people in distress when ever possible..... Not when it suits us and we can get something out of it..... We will need other nations help in the future, and nations will remember how we have acted and it will come and bite us in the arse.

symyjym · May 22, 2015

Psychobilly freakout said:
Not watch it.... I will be honest, and say I never knew it existed in the first place so my first world answer is don't care about the old blocks of stone or dust whatever it is, now the people that is a very different matter. We should be helping any people in distress when ever possible..... Not when it suits us and we can get something out of it..... We will need other nations help in the future, and nations will remember how we have acted and it will come and bite us in the arse.

It is a failure of logic to not have been working with Assad in this.

daveinprague · May 22, 2015

The logic concerning Assad on NSC earlier in this war was to bomb the **** out of him...now people worrying about ruins

Bevendean Hillbilly · May 22, 2015

seeing as I'm unlikely to ever visit the ruins of Palymira and, until yesterday, had no idea it existed then I shouldn't get to aerated one way or the other.

That being the case those that DO care about ancient ruins should be prepared to lay down their lives to protect it. I propose Phil Harding off time team accompanied by Mary Beard, Tony Robinson and Simon Schama. I would offer them whatever support I could in terms of tents and sunglasses but beyond that, they're on their own.

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