Wrong-Direction
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- Mar 10, 2013
- 13,415
When the NHS starts to disappear..
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I predict a riot..
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TomandJerry
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- Oct 1, 2013
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Now we can find out where the welfare cuts will come in
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Kitchen tax, dining room tax, garden tax only for the least well off of course.
KZNSeagull
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How democratic.
Hampster Gull
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- Dec 22, 2010
- 13,462
Groan. Your school boy idealism has just been rejected for 5 yesrs
BrightonCottager
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I just went to give a blood sample at my local hospital (the blood came out black and white, by the way) and the nurses were predicting that diabetes services will be privatised within a year. They were sporting 38 degrees I 'heart' NHS badges.
We need to make sure it doesn't.
I feel a poll coming on:
http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?322291-Do-you-want-more-of-the-NHS-to-be-privatised
Hampster Gull
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- Dec 22, 2010
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I know for some the NHS is about an idealogical point, ie it has to be state owned. Many others think the real point is free for those who use regardless of who provides. The waste in the NHS is not good and some alternatives is not bydefinition a bad idea. I guess its from those who think the state should do all for the people, from centtal planning to provision of as many servicesas possible.Rail, post, etc
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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why will the NHS be disappearing? has something happened?
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Cameron will sell it off cheap to his mates.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,288
so it will still be there then. not quite the same thing as the OP was stating
Bombadier Botty
Complete Twaddle
- Jun 2, 2008
- 3,258
And I can guarantee that you don't know anyone in receipt of Disability Living Allowance or a carer's grant, or in need of social housing. Tories - bunch of I'm all right jack wankers.
Stato
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- Dec 21, 2011
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As I indicated on the other thread, I think that out in the open privatisation of the NHS would be too unpopular for the tories to tackle. They will only have a small majority and, so will be subject to the threat of rebellion on contentious issues just as Major was between 92 and 97. I think it more likely that the first target will be the BBC. A private member's bill already tested the lay of the land last year:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/mps-bid-privatise-bbc-fails-second-hurdle-1435593
Peter Bone and his cronies are the kind of right wing backbenchers that Cameron will need to offer sweeteners to if they are not to become his equivalent to Major's 'B'stards.'
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/mps-bid-privatise-bbc-fails-second-hurdle-1435593
Peter Bone and his cronies are the kind of right wing backbenchers that Cameron will need to offer sweeteners to if they are not to become his equivalent to Major's 'B'stards.'
34064 Fighter Command
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The connundrum is that state owned organisations don't have to be 'free at the point of delivery'. They can generate revenues that go back to help fund levels of service ( like the BBC , or some University Teaching Hospitals ) - however most of these organisations ( British Rail, British Telecom, BA, CEGB, British Steel ) are no longer in public ownership, through ideological politics, rather than common sense.
(British) Career politicians make utterly useless business leaders. Most of the electorate don't worry about wether their train fare is subsidised, or how much profit/loss the rail companies are making. The Private Companies also know that (unless they have a monopoly) they cannot charge what they like, as their customers will vote with their feet and 'shop around' (ie. ditch the train and travel by car/bus/bike/plane ). Some services may become better, some will end up worse, but despite being in Private Hands, politicians don't like giving them free reign to charge what the market will sustain, they know that unfettered free market thinking leaves the political class completely redundant.
I'd argue that keeping a service in the public sector will encourage the electorate to make politicians more accountable for their decisions. One thing we do know is that once a service is privatised, it becomes highly attractive to foreign investors, usually resulting in 'offshoring' of both jobs and profits. Neither of which is good for UK PLC.
Bombadier Botty
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- Jun 2, 2008
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Pastor Niemoller Dribble, Pastor Niemoller.