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Stockdale or Walton
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BensGrandad
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I would be happy to sell DS if we got our money back or Walton for whom we would expect more. Probably £2m +
One hot tub one ambition
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Walton for me.
For a 19-year-old goalkeeper, he radiates confidence, and this seems to rub off onto the players... which in turn rubs off onto the fans.
He looks a great prospect; i hope we don't sell him...
For a 19-year-old goalkeeper, he radiates confidence, and this seems to rub off onto the players... which in turn rubs off onto the fans.
He looks a great prospect; i hope we don't sell him...
Stockdale is the best and most reliable keeper we have. I'm baffled as to why anyone would think Walton should be the no.1. If he'd had a year out on loan and had been terrific then it would be a debate. Until that happens Stockdale should remain first choice
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I think people get carried away with the 'if you're good enough, your old enough' cliche. The youngsters that can jump into a full time first team regular are few and far between. The overwhelming majority of them need to be eased in over time, especially in the higher division.
It's too soon for Walton to be a full time number one. If we struggle again, regardless of how much is down to him, the negativity (both in terms of team morale, with infighting and finger pointing and from the fan base) could do more harm than good.
Fans get too carried away with rushing through any youngster who shows a bit of promise, expectation goes through the roof, and when that young player finds it difficult to find consistency they get written off (as seems to have happened with JFC).
Stockdale number 1, with Walton in the cup games, and hopefully with the chance for a handful of league games to continue developing. Or if we bring in that Finnish keeper, then loan Walton out to a lower division where he will be a first choice keeper gaining more experience.
It's too soon for Walton to be a full time number one. If we struggle again, regardless of how much is down to him, the negativity (both in terms of team morale, with infighting and finger pointing and from the fan base) could do more harm than good.
Fans get too carried away with rushing through any youngster who shows a bit of promise, expectation goes through the roof, and when that young player finds it difficult to find consistency they get written off (as seems to have happened with JFC).
Stockdale number 1, with Walton in the cup games, and hopefully with the chance for a handful of league games to continue developing. Or if we bring in that Finnish keeper, then loan Walton out to a lower division where he will be a first choice keeper gaining more experience.
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martin tyler
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- Jan 25, 2013
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Sensible to loan him out for a year somewhere if he is going to get a full season as a 1st choice keeper. See how that goes and then bring him back as our number 1 if all is well.
I support the notion that we loan Walton out if he can get 35-40+ games in a league 1 side minimum next season, but we also need to sign someone (as suggested in that argus article) who can really put pressure on Stockdale's position as number 1 as he has quite simply not been good enough in several games this past season. Unless we find someone out of contract/cheap (in terms of transfer fee) though I think it's a waste as there is much more pressing investment needed in other areas of the pitch.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Good common sense from the manager.
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
Waxing chumps like candles since ‘75
- Oct 4, 2003
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Exactly what i was going to suggest should happen, good to see the club are going to try and make it happen. Anyone suggesting selling Walton is an idiot, he's possibly our best long term prospect at the moment. A loan move to a league 1 side would be perfect for him but we'd need some assurances that he's going to be first choice and he gets games under his belt and some much needed experience. Signing a keeper that can really put pressure on Stockdale for the starting spot is also needed, competition for places is always a good thing.
Prince Monolulu
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Stockdale all day, also very sensible and beneficial to all parties to loan Walton out.
I agree; and what puzzles me is why Hughton feels he needs to go out on loan next season to "gain experience". Based on what we have seen to date, he looks well up to the job.
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
Waxing chumps like candles since ‘75
- Oct 4, 2003
- 11,036
Lets start the speculation and ridiculous suggestions on who we should sign to enable Walton to go out on loan.
I'll start with Paul Robinson, played at the highest level for a long time. Has already said he is leaving Blackburn at the end of his contact so will be available on a free. Isn't happy as he isn't even 3rd choice at Blackburn. Wages might be an issue but if he wants to carry on playing he will know that he'll not be able to demand top wages anymore. Still only 35 though so not old for a keeper at all. I think he'd be a decent signing.
I'll start with Paul Robinson, played at the highest level for a long time. Has already said he is leaving Blackburn at the end of his contact so will be available on a free. Isn't happy as he isn't even 3rd choice at Blackburn. Wages might be an issue but if he wants to carry on playing he will know that he'll not be able to demand top wages anymore. Still only 35 though so not old for a keeper at all. I think he'd be a decent signing.
Moshe Gariani
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- Mar 10, 2005
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Stockdale is an excellent goalkeeper.
MOTD and The Football League Show are littered with goalkeeping errors every week. The way people talk on here you would think Stockdale is the only keeper in the world who needs to never make a mistake to validate his position. Certainly the people who love to remember an infallible Kusczcak only need to watch the telly to see goals regularly going into Wolves net that "should have been saved" (including both of Millwall's on Saturday).
Finally, while I'm on. Anyone who, like me, finds it hard to understand why modern day goalkeepers are programmed to punch rather than catch the ball, should just watch the goal Sunderland conceded on Saturday. This programming to punch occasionally/frequently leads to an "error" whereby we in the crowd can see clearly the ball should have been caught - but the method is justified and professionally endorsed.
MOTD and The Football League Show are littered with goalkeeping errors every week. The way people talk on here you would think Stockdale is the only keeper in the world who needs to never make a mistake to validate his position. Certainly the people who love to remember an infallible Kusczcak only need to watch the telly to see goals regularly going into Wolves net that "should have been saved" (including both of Millwall's on Saturday).
Finally, while I'm on. Anyone who, like me, finds it hard to understand why modern day goalkeepers are programmed to punch rather than catch the ball, should just watch the goal Sunderland conceded on Saturday. This programming to punch occasionally/frequently leads to an "error" whereby we in the crowd can see clearly the ball should have been caught - but the method is justified and professionally endorsed.
c0lz
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Walton should be given the chance to push for the number one spot for us. whats the point in youth coming through if we just going to loan them out. I want a player who wants to prove he wants to play for us not a loan player who wants a quick fix.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
We won't be getting a loan player, but another keeper whilst Walton is getting experience. Casper will hopefully sign for another 12 months as 3rd choice to give us cover.
I do partly agree with you but when you look at players like Joe Hart and Butland they had a full season in the lower leagues before they were competing for places. If Walton makes a couple of mistakes it might be detrimental to his confidence and would probably be replaced by Stockdale, he has only played a handful of competitive first team games. If we can get some gurantees about him getting regular gametime he could return in a season's time as our number 1.