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Milliband to outlaw "islamaphobia" if elected.





daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
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Prague, Czech Republic
:ffsparr:

Tories will win the election.
Although on the plus side. Could have fun reporting some peoples comments on here.
You said in another thread, 6 days to go until UKIP. Until UKIP what?
 


pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
30,178
West, West, West Sussex
:ffsparr:

Tories will win the election.
Although on the plus side. Could have fun reporting some peoples comments on here.
You said in another thread, 6 days to go until UKIP. Until UKIP what?

6 days to go until UKIP become an irrelevance as a political party.
 










Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
69,871
Seven days to go until voting, all the party leaders are now reduced to saying just about anything that'll help them grasp a few more straws
 






peterward

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Nov 11, 2009
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cheap electioneering gimmick and dangerous.

Exactly as you say, the Rotherham crowd would all claim islamophobia.

Current discrimination/prejudice laws suffice for everyone else and other religions, why make special case of Muslims, its not an offence to say Jesus Christ as a swear word but if you insulted a Muslim you could be arrested?. if this is passed anyone from that community who does wrong will claim islamophobia.

They could do and say what they please without redress, if someone responds, you're an islamophobe......

It wont matter a jot to the majority of law abiding moderate British Muslims, but it will mean the nutters preaching hate can claim prejudice if you challenge their perverse bile.
 


daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
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cheap electioneering gimmick and dangerous.

Exactly as you say, the Rotherham crowd would all claim islamophobia.

Current discrimination/prejudice laws suffice for everyone else and other religions, why make special case of Muslims, its not an offence to say Jesus Christ as a swear word but if you insulted a Muslim you could be arrested?. if this is passed anyone from that community who does wrong will claim islamophobia.

They could do and say what they please without redress, if someone responds, you're an islamophobe......

It wont matter a jot to the majority of law abiding moderate British Muslims, but it will mean the nutters preaching hate can claim prejudice if you challenge their perverse bile.


Why would the Rotherham lot claim Islamophobia if there is evidence of their crimes? Rape is rape.

Can they gun people down in the street and claim 'Islamophobia' as well when arrested?
 






inland seagull

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Aug 7, 2010
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Northampton
once again a politician taking advantage of a situation to make ridiculous promises in an effort to obtain votes. It's just putting more pressure on the police and the justice system to impose another law that even if he did get it on the statute book would become extremely difficult to impose. yet more bullshit from another useless politician
 


peterward

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Why would the Rotherham lot claim Islamophobia if there is evidence of their crimes? Rape is rape.

Can they gun people down in the street and claim 'Islamophobia' as well when arrested?

Of course the Rotherham crowd are guilty, but for years the authorities were to scared to act for fear of being branded racist, throw in islamophobia laws and it makes the councils/authorities more cautious in dealing with caims from that section of society. I have no doubt that people will try and wrongly claim that.

The former bangledeshi mayor of tower hamlets, recently stripped of the position because of bribary and vote rigging is claiming racism (prejudice), in what looks on paper like nothing more than obvious fraud.

this was in the Indy last year, this cheap vote stunt, if passed and made into law could make it illegal to condemn IS. the worlds gone mad.

http://www.independent.co.uk/student/news/nus-motion-to-condemn-isis-fails-amidst-claims-of-islamophobia-9796193.html
 


daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
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I agree its a voting stunt....they all do it...

Tories will win the election anyway imo.... but 'that lot' didnt claim Islamophobia did they, which is why Loonys post is sort of ridiculous.
 




pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...s-prepared-to-pay-to-win-the-Muslim-vote.html

Tis the election season, so promises fall from the lips of our leaders over key voting groups like blossom from an apple tree. Some promises are more cynical and stinky than others.
Take Ed Miliband, who told Muslim News last week that a future Labour government would outlaw Islamophobia, making it an aggravated crime.
“We are going to make sure it is marked on people’s records, with the police to make sure they root out Islamophobia as a hate crime,” said Miliband. “We are going to change the law so we make it absolutely clear of [sic] our abhorrence of hate crime and Islamophobia. It will be the first time that the police will record Islamophobic attacks right across the country.”
This is deeply disturbing. Do you reckon the Labour leader has read any of the recent reports into child-sex grooming gangs? You know, the ones that concluded that the main reason local authorities, police and social services did nothing to protect thousands of young girls from abuse at the hands of mainly Pakistani men was because they were afraid of appearing racist?

One taxi driver actually laughed as he informed his victim that her complaints would be in vain because “they won’t dare touch us”. He was absolutely right.
Shamefully, fear of alienating “the community” has guided the behaviour of Labour councils in parts of the country that have become bywords for the rape, torture and trafficking of mainly vulnerable white girls.
Far from focusing on Islamophobia, Mr Miliband should be directing Labour apparatchiks, brainwashed about the joys of multiculturalism, to root out the hate crime of misogyny, still considered acceptable by so many in “the community”. A phobia is an irrational fear.
It’s perfectly rational to be outraged by the figures that follow: Rochdale 65, Rotherham 1,400, Newcastle 93, Manchester 650, Derby 27... and on and on, in pain and infamy.
These figures are the recorded instances of vile abuse against girls in Labour areas that rely on the Muslim vote. When tallied up, the tally stands at well in excess of 4,000 children.
As Denis McShane, former Labour MP for Rotherham, has admitted “misplaced racial sensitivity” – aka fear of being seen as “Islamophobic” – prevented him from burrowing into the widespread sexual abuse allegations and the oppression of women in the Muslim community. A group of “influential Pakistani councillors” in Rotherham were accused of blocking attempts to tackle the abuse and also of meddling in domestic abuse cases involving Asian woman.

A new aggravated crime of “Islamophobia” makes it even less likely that such brutes will be outed. Meanwhile, if Ed Miliband has anything to do with it, I too will have my name recorded by the police.
Back in February, I wrote an article here about Britain’s first elected Muslim mayor, Lutfur Rahman, who was clearly running Tower Hamlets in east London as if it were some personal fiefdom in Bangladesh. Mr Rahman was accused of “subverting democracy” and “systematically stealing votes”. Muslim voters were warmed that it was “unIslamic” not to vote for him. Anyone who dared to challenge the Mayor’s shocking behaviour was branded – wait for it – Islamophobic.
The police did almost nothing to investigate allegations of widespread electoral fraud. It fell to four local individuals to bring Rahman to court and to that superb journalist, Andrew Gilligan of this parish, to keep up the pressure.

After my article appeared, the Telegraph received a lengthy complaint from an organisation called Tower Hamlets First, which demanded a prominently printed apology to Rahman, and described my piece on him as “thoroughly contemptible in the moral sense”. Most amusing.
• The inside story of the Tower Hamlets mayor election fraud
It was a relief, though hardly a surprise, when Election Commissioner Richard Mawrey, who sat as a judge in the High Court, ruled last week that Rahman played “race” and “religious” cards, and was guilty of corruption and illegal practices. Mayor Rahman’s election was declared void and the judge described “an alarming state of affairs in Tower Hamlets driven by the ruthless ambitions of one man”.
If Ed Miliband’s new hard line on Islamophobia becomes law, men like Rahman could thrive unchallenged and our country will be even less able to defend itself against practices and customs that we find utterly abhorrent.
Does the Labour leader prefer to offer comfort to the Lutfur Rahmans, or should he, instead, be helping abused girls from the working class that his party was set up to protect? Is that a price you’re willing to pay, Ed, to keep the Muslim vote onside? Really?

If Miliband’s definition of Islamophobia includes shouting until one’s last breath against the disgusting chauvinists who prey on young girls and treat women as second-class citizens, then please do count me in. I’d gladly go to jail for that. The alternative, you see, is throroughly contemptible in the moral sense.
 


alfredmizen

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Why would the Rotherham lot claim Islamophobia if there is evidence of their crimes? Rape is rape.

Can they gun people down in the street and claim 'Islamophobia' as well when arrested?
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studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
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So does thismean that after the Paris killings anyone who used #I'mCharlie is now guilty of a hate crine. Also if anyone whats to follow the Danish cartoonist they are likewise guilty of a hate crime. Perhaps the headline should have been 'if elected Labour will abolish free speech' Maybe a masterplan to cut the the deficit with the government placing a tax on stones that are used at the public stonnings for those guilty of this new hate crime.
 


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So does thismean that after the Paris killings anyone who used #I'mCharlie is now guilty of a hate crine. Also if anyone whats to follow the Danish cartoonist they are likewise guilty of a hate crime. Perhaps the headline should have been 'if elected Labour will abolish free speech' Maybe a masterplan to cut the the deficit with the government placing a tax on stones that are used at the public stonnings for those guilty of this new hate crime.

Milliband is an utter tool if he goes through with something like this. He just doesn't get it does he.
 



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