Query about ukips Nigel Farage MEP status, after election..

desprateseagull · Apr 20, 2015

If no ukip candidates get a seat, does his party, and MEP status get recinded?

Not sure how he can lead a party that may have no public representation..

surrey jim · Apr 20, 2015

At the 2010 election he was leader of UKIP with no MPs. Infact even 12 months ago his party had no MPs - FWIW at the election I still think they (UKIP) will win 2-3 extra seats.

HawkTheSeagull · Apr 20, 2015

I believe his MEP status would be unaffected.

Although since I'm a bit thick today - what would happen if to that MEP status if he was elected as an MP ?

JetsetJimbo · Apr 20, 2015

There's nothing constitutionally to stop someone being both an MP and an MEP.

Edit: though apparently I'm wrong, things changed in 2004. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_mandate#European_Parliament

Kuipers Supporters Club · Apr 20, 2015

HawkTheSeagull said:
I believe his MEP status would be unaffected.

Although since I'm a bit thick today - what would happen if to that MEP status if he was elected as an MP ?

No, European Council decision of 2002 states that "the office of MEP is incompatible with that of member of a national parliament". An MEP who is elected as an MP, or appointed a Peer, therefore has to stand down from the European Parliament.

HawkTheSeagull · Apr 20, 2015

Brighton4Cambridge3 said:
No, European Council decision of 2002 states that "the office of MEP is incompatible with that of member of a national parliament". An MEP who is elected as an MP, or appointed a Peer, therefore has to stand down from the European Parliament.

Ah right, thanks for clearing that up. The first bit was for if he didnt win South Thanet, which could be rather comical if he didnt.

Kuipers Supporters Club · Apr 20, 2015

HawkTheSeagull said:
Ah right, thanks for clearing that up. The first bit was for if he didnt win South Thanet, which could be rather comical if he didnt.

No Worries!

He's done if he doesn't win - although when I was in South Thanet they did seem rather popular!

UKIP will at least get one seat for sure - that of Carswell's, which is almost nailed on. FWIW I think they will win four.

daveinprague · Apr 20, 2015

There is news of a 'suppressed' UKIP poll for Thanet. They dont think he will win it.

The_Viper · Apr 20, 2015

Only the most ignorant would think UKIP have a chance of winning zero seats.

Green Cross Code Man · Apr 20, 2015

daveinprague said:
There is news of a 'suppressed' UKIP poll for Thanet. They dont think he will win it.

Sounds like wishful thinking Dave. Football Rumours?

Medwayseagull · Apr 20, 2015

daveinprague said:
There is news of a 'suppressed' UKIP poll for Thanet. They dont think he will win it.

I have heard of one for Rochester but not Thanet.

pastafarian · Apr 20, 2015

will the greens keep that loony woman as leader for another 5 years even tough she wont have a seat or do they go back to Lucas?

daveinprague · Apr 20, 2015

The_Viper said:
Only the most ignorant would think UKIP have a chance of winning zero seats.

Youre right. At the moment, they have two. Its probably going to be one after the election, so you are correct.

daveinprague · Apr 20, 2015

Green Cross Code Man said:
Sounds like wishful thinking Dave. Football Rumours?

Apparently, the 'poll' was for Rochester. Having said that, I still dont think he will be an MP on May 8th

The Merry Prankster · Apr 20, 2015

Private polls showing he won't win Thanet.

Elvis · Apr 20, 2015

Hopefully the good people of THanet South will tell Farage to do one and on May 8th he get get a new job writing for The Daily Mail. (prey tell he doesn't already?)

ATFC Seagull · Apr 20, 2015

The_Viper said:
Only the most ignorant would think UKIP have a chance of winning zero seats.

Care to explain?

It would be ignorant to think that they won't get a very sizeable chunk of the national vote, but they don't have any seats that you would consider safe victories (perhaps Carswell's as others have said).

Bold Seagull · Apr 20, 2015

The_Viper said:
Only the most ignorant would think UKIP have a chance of winning zero seats.

Firstly, you can't win zero seats. If you have no seats it means you haven't won anything.

Secondly, why would it be ignorant? Some polls and political comment is pointing toward that? Perhaps it would be just as ignorant to suggest they'll have more than zero?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/general-election-2015-nigel-farage-is-on-course-to-lose-south-thanet-election-after-experts-predict-ukip-wipeout-10187516.html

Green Cross Code Man · Apr 20, 2015

Bold Seagull said:
Firstly, you can't win zero seats. If you have no seats it means you haven't won anything.

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This is one occasion where English language convention allows for apparent contradiction. It makes sense as does 'winning no seats' or in football competition 'winning no games' or 'scoring no goals'.

Lord Bracknell · Apr 20, 2015

There's not even an obligation for a party leader to stand for a seat in parliament, let alone win one.

The best example is Nicola Sturgeon, who isn't a candidate in this election.

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