Mental Lental
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By quite a margin....
http://i100.independent.co.uk/artic...-10-most-dangerousto-be-a-student--gkinObqiyZ
http://i100.independent.co.uk/artic...-10-most-dangerousto-be-a-student--gkinObqiyZ
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Brighton - Most dangerous place to be a student....
- Thread starter Mental Lental
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GreersElbow
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Well I live in Lincoln, which just had yet another murder a few days ago on portland street, which if I remember likely, is considered the most dangerous street. With lots of robberies, burgalries and all sorts. I suppose because Brighton has two large universities, crime would be proportionally higher. Lincoln isn't safe, my girlfriend who studies criminology had a police sergeant talk about the impact of policing cuts, they have like 6 patrol cars at a time for Lincoln. It's horrific.
Seems extremely hard to believe. I moved to Brighton from Nottingham largely because it was so rough. In three years in Nottingham:
-bike stollen
-bricks thrown through front windows of my house three times
-chased by muggers on way home from lectures
-housemate beaten up in a random attack
-people smoking crack on our doorstep on a regular basis.
-bike stollen
-bricks thrown through front windows of my house three times
-chased by muggers on way home from lectures
-housemate beaten up in a random attack
-people smoking crack on our doorstep on a regular basis.
surrey jim
Not in Surrey
829 crimes per 1000 people? Surely 82% of students aren't the victim of crime annually. That is an insanely high figure
brightn'ove
cringe
It does seem extremely hard to believe.
Mental Lental
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Maybe they bought tickets to see The Albion and felt like they'd been mugged.
GingerBeerMan
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- Dec 29, 2011
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Absolute bs article. I can guarantee it's not the most dangerous place.
TWOCHOICEStom
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It's not bullshit. It's statistics. But the data is interesting.
They got these figures by getting crimes from the surrounding area of a hall of residence .That surrounding area is a MSOA. These middle layer super output areas have to have a minimum population of 5000 and a max of 15,000. Assuming a dot is placed on every private hall of residence, then the nearest MSOA's data is gathered. It's no wonder Brighton looks horrendous.
I don't have a map of how Brighton's OAs look, but here's a map of Brighton Uni's halls. Imagine drawing a net around the nearest MSOA at each point here and getting the crime stats per 1000 people. That town centre hall must drag the stats waaaay south. Moulscobe certainly won't help either.
I'd love to see the location of the halls of residence for each of the universities in the list.
They got these figures by getting crimes from the surrounding area of a hall of residence .That surrounding area is a MSOA. These middle layer super output areas have to have a minimum population of 5000 and a max of 15,000. Assuming a dot is placed on every private hall of residence, then the nearest MSOA's data is gathered. It's no wonder Brighton looks horrendous.
I don't have a map of how Brighton's OAs look, but here's a map of Brighton Uni's halls. Imagine drawing a net around the nearest MSOA at each point here and getting the crime stats per 1000 people. That town centre hall must drag the stats waaaay south. Moulscobe certainly won't help either.
I'd love to see the location of the halls of residence for each of the universities in the list.
Each student vote for the Greens is counted as a crime.
Monkey Man
Your support is not that great
Completely meaningless scaremongering. Not all crimes are "dangerous". You could live in a place where there were 10 murders in a year and 50 armed robberies but that data would make it appear safer than a place where there were 70 bike thefts (to use an extreme analogy).
No wonder people who work with data and statistics tear their hair out at the way numbers are abused by journalists.
No wonder people who work with data and statistics tear their hair out at the way numbers are abused by journalists.
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Do they count every student who's had a sausage/can of beer stolen from the fridge ?
Postman Pat
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I agree with that entirely, Sussex University is in the equivalent of The Bronx and Moss side rolled into one.
Stay away students, go to much safer places.
Stay away students, go to much safer places.
patchamalbion
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It's a cheap shitty press release using dirty crime stats that don't really prove much. Using the word 'dangerous' is scaremongering as the crimes committed in those areas could be small time.
It's just Brighton has a larger concentration of students living in one part of the city whereas somewhere like Bristol the students are completely spread over the whole city.
It's just Brighton has a larger concentration of students living in one part of the city whereas somewhere like Bristol the students are completely spread over the whole city.
Megazone
On his last warning
I've been to the Gaza strip for a lads weekend, holidayed with the family in Basra and went camping in Syria. But I can 100% confirm, a shopping trip down Lewes rd was by far more dangerous.
Nibble
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- Jan 3, 2007
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Anecdotal evidence suggests people feel extremely safe in Brighton. What crimes are we talking about? I know there is a huge amount of retail crime in Brighton, due to our homeless and drug taking population maybe they've lumped that in? Hardly dangerous to students though.
GingerBeerMan
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- Dec 29, 2011
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I said it's a bullshit article, which it is. As other have alluled to: more crimes doesn't mean more dangerous, it's a sensationalised headline. If students live on London road which has a lot of shoplifters caught, that doesn't mean it's more dangerous does it.
seagullmouse
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- Jan 3, 2011
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On the flipside its a very safe place to be opposing goalkeeper.
albionalex
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Where abouts in Nottingham?
I had no problems during my 3 years but one of my friends was burgled twice.
seagullsovergrimsby
#cpfctinpotclub
A French exchange student was knocked over by a bus in Western Road on Thursday and suffered a fractured skull.
studio150
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The fuller detail includes the following: 'Of the recorded crimes a Brighton student area had the highest rates of violence and sexual offences, burglary, and theft from the person'
This may give the impression that violence and sexual crimes are always occurring in Brighton. However do these figures include all the reports of homophobic behaviour occurring in and around the Amex, where there is no sexual assault.
I would have thought that rather than looking at reported crimes around the halls of residence, that it would have been better to ask the students themselves if they had been a victim of crime while away at university. I'm certain that this would give a much different result with Brighton much lower down the table.
This may give the impression that violence and sexual crimes are always occurring in Brighton. However do these figures include all the reports of homophobic behaviour occurring in and around the Amex, where there is no sexual assault.
I would have thought that rather than looking at reported crimes around the halls of residence, that it would have been better to ask the students themselves if they had been a victim of crime while away at university. I'm certain that this would give a much different result with Brighton much lower down the table.