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Ukip claims to have up to 40% support says Brighton Pavilion candidate Nigel Carter



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Originally the Swankers
Jun 28, 2008
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http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/12865993.Ukip_claims_to_have_up_to_40__support/?ref=mr


UKIP politicians are predicting a four-way split for a key Brighton seat and claiming they will be in the race for a sensational parliamentary victory.

Brighton Pavilion candidate Nigel Carter says Ukip can win 10,000 votes in Brighton Pavilion alone, claiming his party’s own polling is showing up to 40% support in certain areas.

Opposition candidates have poured water on the claims, describing them as “deluded” and “untrue”.

It would be a remarkable surge for Ukip to come close to their ambitions having gained less than 1,000 votes in 2010 compared to the more than 16,000 votes that swept Green candidate Caroline Lucas into parliament.

In one of the tightest races anywhere in the country in 2010, Ms Lucas beat Labour’s Nancy Platts by just 1,252 votes with Conservative candidate Charlotte Vere also gaining more than 12,000 votes.

The latest published polling data from Lord Ashcroft dating from December put Caroline Lucas on course to retain her seat with 38% of the vote followed by Labour candidate Purna Sen on 28%, Conservative candidate Clarence Mitchell on 21% and Ukip on a lowly 8%.

Mr Carter has spelled out a bullish message of optimism from his party, confident of winning seats in Sussex for the first time ever and capitalising on what they say are the failings of their more-established rivals.

He said: “I can see all the other parties’ support going down.

“People don’t like the Conservatives hectoring tone and I think Caroline, who was on 16,000 last time, will go down because of the Green council’s performance where they have been naive.

“Our private polls last year had seen us go up from 1% to 10% and that was before we won the European elections.

“I think we have a real chance of up to 10,000 votes and then there is going to be a tie between four candidates, its’ going to be real neck and neck.”

Clarence Mitchell, Conservative candidate for Brighton Pavilion, said: “Ukip are as deluded as they are unrealistic.

“They will not be polling anything like that.

“This seat is a classic three-way party marginal and a vote for Ukip is a wasted vote.

“The Conservatives are the only party capable of giving Brighton Pavilion voters the chance to decide on our future relationship in Europe with a guaranteed referendum on EU membership by 2017.

“Ukip has hardly been mentioned on the doorstep, I have never seen one single Ukip flier, canvasser or deliverer.

“Last time round they polled something like 1.8% and if they increase that, they will have done well.”

The countdown to this year’s knife-edge election is underway and The Argus will be keeping you at the cutting edge in the run down to May 7.

Sussex seats will play a key role in deciding the future make-up of the national government and we will be following every twist and turn in what is set to be an exciting final five weeks of campaigning.

In Brighton and Hove, we have three constituencies that were all decided by less than 2,000 votes each last time round and could be even tighter this year.

Elsewhere in the county there are MPs fighting for their political lives to hold on to seats they won in 2010.

Even in the county’s safer seats, we will see a changing of the guard with long-standing Horsham MP Francis Maude and former Government ministers Charles Hendry and Greg Barker stepping down.

Fresh blood should invigorate these campaigns and new MPs will be keen to show their worth.

The big parties are ploughing their resources into marginal Sussex seats knowing every constituency counts in the battle for Number 10, and candidates in winnable Sussex seats will receive support from party big hitters.

We have already had the chancellor tossing pizzas this week and a minister stepping up to the cricket strip but prepare for many more.

A home secretary down at the beach, a coalition minister in Coalition nightclub or a Labour bigwig on the pier – anything is possible.

The rise of the outsider parties such as the Green Party and Ukip will be the unknown factor when we head to the polls – can they turn their self-styled surges into parliamentary gains?

And how resilient can the Liberal Democrats prove when all around them are predicting their voters will leave in droves.

All these questions and more might not even be answered by May 7 and the country could be waking up to uncertainty One thing is for certain, with so much at stake – there is certainly no cause for apathy.
 




knocky1

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Jan 20, 2010
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I doubted the UKIP claim but the way they have worded '40% of votes in some areas' could be just 4 houses voting UKIP in a small selected area of 10 houses.
 


Horton's halftime iceberg

Blooming Marvellous
Jan 9, 2005
16,484
Brighton
Wow, mushroom season has come early, who's vote has collapsed since December then, all the Labour and Conservative!
 

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Diablo

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Sep 22, 2014
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lewes
At this time pre election all parties full of claims counter claims and promises...After election most claims/ promises will be lost/forgotten/denied...
 






Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
16,643
Fiveways
Hmmm. The Argus* revealing its political colours. If they're not purple-and-yellow, they're blue. And so they spout this nonsense. The more intelligent Kippers on here, like [MENTION=3791]Wes[/MENTION]tdene, will concede this is just a pile of a tosh, although if anyone wants to have a bet with me that UKIP will come, at best, fourth in Pavilion, they can.

* who are taking a big bunch of cash off the Tories at present. I can't go on their website without being subjected to an impending 'Tax Bombshell'.
 








Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
16,643
Fiveways
All 8 constituency polls by Ashcroft this week had UKIP falling compared to previous poll

Just to put some context in here, all of these 8 polls were in Con-Lib Dem marginals, where the UKIP vote is eking away. This is what happens to those parties who are not in the top two in FPTP systems. UKIP and the Greens will take a hit in quite a few seats on this front. That said, I do expect UKIP to achieve a fair few second places in this election, which may stand them in good stead for the next GE.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
43,690
Crap Town
All 8 constituency polls by Ashcroft this week had UKIP falling compared to previous poll

To be fair these are all LD marginals which UKIP cannot win in the first place and where tactical voting would see either Labour (1) or Conservatives (7) winning the seats.
 






Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,664
West west west Sussex
Judging by the anti Green sentiment here.

It would appear UKIP polled by reading NSC, while carefully making sure they'd blocked [MENTION=7]Mustafa[/MENTION].
 




Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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The Conservative described the UKIP candidate as deluded, then suggested it was a three way marginal......
 






jackanada

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Jul 19, 2011
3,157
Brighton
The Conservative described the UKIP candidate as deluded, then suggested it was a three way marginal......

Conservative/Labour/Green marginal.

The main purpose of the article seems to be to warn Tories not to defect to UKIP, because the cuddly conservatives are the only electable party that can get you out of this Europe nonsense.
 


Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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Conservative/Labour/Green marginal.

The main purpose of the article seems to be to warn Tories not to defect to UKIP, because the cuddly conservatives are the only electable party that can get you out of this Europe nonsense.

Realistically, the Tories have no chance in Pavilion these days. They know that. It's a two way seat. The same as those either sides, but with Labour and the Greens on this occasion.
 


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