Where are the fighters who will keep us in this league?

Giraffe · Feb 11, 2015

Tonight I saw a fairly gutless display, admittedly from both team.

In relegation battles of old I have seen the team fighting to stay up but just can't see it this season.

Which players look like they are fighting? Dunk, Calderon yes. Stockdale maybe. Greer yes. But anyone else? The rest just look like they are going through the motions at the moment.

I fear they think they are too good to go down.

spence · Feb 11, 2015

The new guy sounded ok tonight but understandably faded due to match fitness. He could be the missing link in midfield. It's up front we are so shit. I also get annoyed when Caskey is played out wide and Bruno in midfield

The team to watch is Charlton. They are in shocking form and remind me of Wolves. By that i mean they keep sacking their managers and invested very little in the team

JamesAndTheGiantHead · Feb 11, 2015

supaseagull · Feb 11, 2015

Giraffe said:
Tonight I saw a fairly gutless display, admittedly from both team.

In relegation battles of old I have seen the team fighting to stay up but just can't see it this season.

Which players look like they are fighting? Dunk, Calderon yes. Stockdale maybe. Greer yes. But anyone else? The rest just look like they are going through the motions at the moment.

I fear they think they are too good to go down.

Greer is proof that just because a player comes across as all aggressive and shouty that it doesn't mean that they are passionate- it maybe that they are hiding their own misdemeanours.

After all in a war would you want a leader who makes knee jerk and over the top actions or someone calm and collected who earns the respect of his peers.

Greer for me has not been good enough for three years in this league and he has now reached the end of the road.

yxee · Feb 11, 2015

Greer is more likely to fight the team than fight for the team. The way he shouts after making a mistake makes me cringe.

Nathan · Feb 11, 2015

I would say CH and NJ are up for the fight, and it is important to have managers and coaches who care about the club.

father_and_son · Feb 11, 2015

Giraffe said:
Which players look like they are fighting? Dunk, Calderon yes. Stockdale maybe. Greer yes. But anyone else? The rest just look like they are going through the motions at the moment.

Dunk ... 3 games in 4 on average, then on the 4th he seems to be just going through the motions... man-strating I think!

Calderon ... for what he gives in commitment and passion, he lacks in skill and pace. His role should be off field now. The man is a god, but sadly, no longer a footballing god.

Stockdale ... Like Dunk, only good for 75% of the time, but I think he might have petit mal epilepsy because he just goes vacant for 5 minute periods when his positioning is poor, his judgement worse and his reactions non-existent. Instead of one bad game he has bad moments in every game and inevitably they occur when Greer is called upon to actually defend and they both let us down.

supaseagull said:
Greer is proof that just because a player comes across as all aggressive and shouty that it doesn't mean that they are passionate- it maybe that they are hiding their own misdemeanours.

yxee said:
Greer is more likely to fight the team than fight for the team. The way he shouts after making a mistake makes me cringe.

This. Greer is not a leader of men. At best he's a bully, at worst, he's just a shouty tw@t. Should NOT be captain and its debatable whether he should even be in the team.

Arkwright · Feb 11, 2015

We don't need fighters we need experienced professional performances with all players playing in the right position. Hopefully this will turn the side into winners.

I know last night was dull but we set up for a dull performance, similar to Blackpool away, just be more professional and more positive. We will soon need to start winning games and draws won't be good enough. Positive selections and professional performances will do the trick for me.

Quinny · Feb 11, 2015

What is needed is workingclasspride in charge of the team, he will sort them out &#55357;&#56397;

Blue Valkyrie · Feb 11, 2015

Giraffe said:
Tonight I saw a fairly gutless display, admittedly from both team.

In relegation battles of old I have seen the team fighting to stay up but just can't see it this season.

Which players look like they are fighting? Dunk, Calderon yes. Stockdale maybe. Greer yes. But anyone else? The rest just look like they are going through the motions at the moment.

I fear they think they are too good to go down.

Good analysis.

I think most of the players haven't realised that we have a significant chance of going down.

At what point does Tony say enough is enough, and bankroll 3-4 high quality 93 day loans, to fight fire and get us the 18-22 points needed to stay up ?

mothy · Feb 11, 2015

Dunk (just) calde (will give all he has ) ince & erm erm erm o'grady as well

Thats it really

Pretty pink fairy · Feb 11, 2015

Mustafa said:
I still have confidence in CMS to step up when we need him the most.

...and Calde, of course.

he wasn't needed by Poyet, what makes you think he's going to be our saviour, how many has he banged in this season :lolol:

regards
DR

Pavilionaire · Feb 11, 2015

How many times at home have we seen the Albion really going for it in the last 10-15 minutes and you wonder where that extra 10% has been all game.

I believe we have players with fight. I also believe we have one or two who are going through the motions. What we are crying out for is a captain with a bit of the Danny Cullip about him, but also a midfielder that can drive the team forward. A lot of these players just need a good kick up the arse. We know they've got it in them the way we came back at Arsenal in that second half.

derbyseagull · Feb 11, 2015

Mustafa said:
I still have confidence in CMS to step up when we need him the most.

...and Calde, of course.

I agree. CMS never gives less than 100%. As does Calde. I'll never forget CMS coming on at Forest last season and putting that cross in for the winner.

Pretty pink fairy · Feb 11, 2015

derbyseagull said:
I agree. CMS never gives less than 100%. As does Calde. I'll never forget CMS coming on at Forest last season and putting that cross in for the winner.

BUT HIS GOAL SCORING IS POOR
regards
DR

Stat Brother · Feb 11, 2015

Damn I forgot the bi-annual bounce last week.

http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?243256-You-need-7&highlight=alan+davies

yxee · Feb 12, 2015

derbyseagull said:
I agree. CMS never gives less than 100%. As does Calde. I'll never forget CMS coming on at Forest last season and putting that cross in for the winner.

I agree that he runs a lot, but I can't put him in this category on account of the way he collapses when any defender touches him.

theboybilly · Feb 12, 2015

derbyseagull said:
I agree. CMS never gives less than 100%. As does Calde. I'll never forget CMS coming on at Forest last season and putting that cross in for the winner.

One cross in nine months - not bad for a striker

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