"Yet only four miles away in Falmer are kids who, unbelievably, have never seen the sea."

goldstone · Jan 15, 2015

"Yet only four miles away in Falmer are kids who, unbelievably, have never seen the sea."

Article in today's Times by Janice Turner talking about a visit to the Brighton Aldridge Community Academy. She says that "Brighton is now far ritzier than the crumbling, stuccoed town I remember" (when she studied at the University of Sussex), but then talks about deprived council estate kids who have never seen the sea.

Can there really be kids in Falmer who have never been taken to see the sea? I do find that very hard to believe.

And writing about the Green Party she says "... the main reason they look likely to lose power in May is Brighton's appalling refuse collection".

hans kraay fan club · Jan 15, 2015

I call bullshit.

You can see the sea FROM most of Brighton's estates!

Frutos · Jan 15, 2015

What utter crap.

DarrenFreemansPerm · Jan 15, 2015

My friends Aunt adopted a boy from Whitehawk, he was about 4 or 5 at the time, he had never been to the sea front or seen an escalator, he was terrified the first time he faced a set of moving stairs. True story, sad but true.

turienzo's lovechild · Jan 15, 2015

my mum used to be a social worker in brighton and definitely came across many kids who had never seen the sea...it was more in areas like hollingbury and patcham

Raleigh Chopper · Jan 15, 2015

About 5 years ago it was on our local news that 10% of kids who live in Plymouth had never seen the sea.
It shocked me so much that I remember it clearly.
Don't know the background but there are some very deprived areas of Plymouth but at least they are being regenerated.

Crispy Ambulance · Jan 15, 2015

I love the idea of Falmer being classed as a council estate!

hans kraay fan club · Jan 15, 2015

DarrenFreemansPerm said:
My friends Aunt adopted a boy from Whitehawk, he was about 4 or 5 at the time, he had never been to the sea front or seen an escalator, he was terrified the first time he faced a set of moving stairs. True story, sad but true.

turienzo's lovechild said:
my mum used to be a social worker in brighton and definitely came across many kids who had never seen the sea...it was more in areas like hollingbury and patcham

Yes, but this report says 'never SEEN the sea', not 'never been for a nice day out at the seaside'. Surely the poor kid from Whitehawk or Hollingbury just has to turn their head in the right direction, to SEE it!

(My Mum is also a social worker in Brighton, btw)

Gwylan · Jan 16, 2015

hans kraay fan club said:
Yes, but this report says 'never SEEN the sea', not 'never been for a nice day out at the seaside'. Surely the poor kid from Whitehawk or Hollingbury just has to turn their head in the right direction, to SEE it!

(My Mum is also a social worker in Brighton, btw)

You can't see the sea from my house in Coldean, nor could you from the one I grew up in Moulsecoomb. It's hard to miss it from Whitehawk, although there was a report in a paper a few years back about kids in Whitehawk - about 1km from the sea, who'd never been to the beach

jonny.rainbow · Jan 16, 2015

Shocking.

Take away their benefits I say.

Tarpon · Jan 16, 2015

There are definitely some kids in Falmer 'who have never been taken to see the sea'. They may well be the same kids who wear no coats in winter, have no carpets at home, wear the same socks all week, have a packet of crisps for breakfast , have no books or pens and paper at home and, funnily enough, are not too keen on school holidays.

Justice · Jan 16, 2015

Whats so amazing about the sea anyway?

fataddick · Jan 16, 2015

I think the problem is people don't walk - kids don't walk - anymore. I'd happily wander 5 miles up the canal when I was a kid, but now no-one does. Nowhere in Brighton & Hove is more than an hour's walk from the seafront is it (75% of places are less than half that)? If people are not seeing the sea it's because they are either (a) lazy kids, (b) have over-protective parents or (c) all of the above. The kids should be taken into care, the parents should be shot. End of.

beorhthelm · Jan 16, 2015

i call bullshit too. this would suggest their parents have never tried to take them on a bus about 1-2miles: that they have never been to London Road, Churchill Square or the Cinema. unless these deprived families all have internet for all shopping, i dont see this happening. if they really havent seen the sea its because their parents deem there isnt much to see (and to be frank they'd be right)

Thunder Bolt · Jan 16, 2015

beorhthelm said:
i call bullshit too. this would suggest their parents have never tried to take them on a bus about 1-2miles: that they have never been to London Road, Churchill Square or the Cinema. unless these deprived families all have internet for all shopping, i dont see this happening. if they really havent seen the sea its because their parents deem there isnt much to see (and to be frank they'd be right)

Have you seen the cost of bus fares?

aolstudios · Jan 16, 2015

Crispy Ambulance said:
I love the idea of Falmer being classed as a council estate!

That's the former Falmer school they're talking about, which is next to Moulsecoomb

Hamilton · Jan 16, 2015

Gwylan said:
You can't see the sea from my house in Coldean, nor could you from the one I grew up in Moulsecoomb. It's hard to miss it from Whitehawk, although there was a report in a paper a few years back about kids in Whitehawk - about 1km from the sea, who'd never been to the beach

Yes you can. It's over there, between the land and the sky!

turienzo's lovechild · Jan 16, 2015

hans kraay fan club said:
Yes, but this report says 'never SEEN the sea', not 'never been for a nice day out at the seaside'. Surely the poor kid from Whitehawk or Hollingbury just has to turn their head in the right direction, to SEE it!

(My Mum is also a social worker in Brighton, btw)

you can definitely see it in whitehawk but i've lived in some areas where the sea was in no way visible...i imagine there are a few. it's definitely not impossible to never see the sea

TWOCHOICEStom · Jan 16, 2015

If you live in Brighton and Hove, have a child over the age of 1 and they've never seen the sea, you should not have children. Simple as that.

Vegas Seagull · Jan 16, 2015

The last line detsiled recycling levels @ 27% compared to 70% prior to the strike as no'one 'cares' anymore and stuffs anything in any bin, is this correct??

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