Safe standing: Palace owners don't want to "make people sit"

burrish-gull · Jan 8, 2015

Hate them but can't disagree with the sentiment, good on CPFC

http://www.fsf.org.uk/latest-news/view/safe-standing-palace-owners-dont-want-to-make-people-sit

GT49er · Jan 8, 2015

Good for them.

stripeyshark · Jan 8, 2015

We should be right with them on this.

Triggaaar · Jan 8, 2015

burrish-gull said:
Hate them but can't disagree with the sentiment, good on CPFC

http://www.fsf.org.uk/latest-news/view/safe-standing-palace-owners-dont-want-to-make-people-sit

This is one thing they've got right.

Goal music, and reading the players first name for the crowd to repeat the surname are naff things they've got wrong.

Hopefully the whole country will have standing sections in years to come. Who knows, we may even be able to have a drink.

Mowgli37 · Jan 8, 2015

The continued resistance to safe-standing in Britain baffles me. The vast majority of football fans would welcome a return to terraces and as the article demonstrates, a number of figures in the hierarchy of clubs want it as well. I get why Tony and Co wouldn't want to rip out the seats in the North so soon after opening the ground but I hope one day we can return to true standing in the North.

Horses Arse · Jan 8, 2015

The one thing that I'm jealous of with Palace is that they allow their supporters to be supporters and act like supporters. I get the impression that our club wants us to behave like theater goers.

Everything else about them I find very very distasteful but at least they are allowed to be football fans.

deletebeepbeepbeep · Jan 8, 2015

Horses Arse said:
The one thing that I'm jealous of with Palace is that they allow their supporters to be supporters and act like supporters. I get the impression that our club wants us to behave like theater goers.

Everything else about them I find very very distasteful but at least they are allowed to be football fans.

Sums my thoughts up exactly, I cannot see the harm in making the north stand safe standing and there are so many positives. I personally wouldn't use a safe standing area but there are many people who would and I think it would deliver a huge boost in terms of atmosphere.

I can't see it ever happening with Bloom in charge, unfortunately.

Seagull on the wing · Jan 8, 2015

At the goldstone from the 1950s I stood at all games, the surge when we scored threw you against the safety barrier.... late 60s my son used to sit on my shoulders....(now at my age I should be sitting on his shoulders) ...Couldn't stand more than 5 mins now, but if fans want to stand as long as it is safe then they should be allowed in the North Stand.

Mowgli37 · Jan 8, 2015

What are the Championship's rules over terraces? Don't Brentford have to remove theirs within two seasons or am I making that up?

Mayfair Seagull · Jan 8, 2015

Horses Arse said:
The one thing that I'm jealous of with Palace is that they allow their supporters to be supporters and act like supporters. I get the impression that our club wants us to behave like theater goers.

Everything else about them I find very very distasteful but at least they are allowed to be football fans.

Totally agree. Everything changed with the opening of the Amex.

countryman · Jan 8, 2015

Mowgli37 said:
What are the Championship's rules over terraces? Don't Brentford have to remove theirs within two seasons or am I making that up?

I think I read somewhere that clubs are allowed 3 seasons in the Championship with a terrace.Does anyone know if the same rules apply if they get promoted to the Premier League?

CAPTAIN GREALISH · Jan 8, 2015

haha good for them

Shy Talk · Jan 8, 2015

They're probably running out of useable seats...

Thunder Bolt · Jan 8, 2015

Mowgli37 said:
The continued resistance to safe-standing in Britain baffles me. The vast majority of football fans would welcome a return to terraces and as the article demonstrates, a number of figures in the hierarchy of clubs want it as well. I get why Tony and Co wouldn't want to rip out the seats in the North so soon after opening the ground but I hope one day we can return to true standing in the North.

Maybe once the Hillsborough enquiry is finished and it's proved that standing wasn't cause of the crushing, then the government will change the regulations. Clubs would be free to provide safe standing.

studio150 · Jan 8, 2015

“The big question is, we have to provide seats, but do we have to make people sit in them? Because clearly we don’t in Blocks A, B, and C. - See more at: http://www.fsf.org.uk/latest-news/v...-want-to-make-people-sit#sthash.HmMksCl6.dpuf

The answer is yes you do, or you are in breach of the ground safety certificate. The stand should either be closed or Palace forced to play home games behind closed doors until they enforce the safety certificate.

Palace only looking for a cheap option to upgrade their ground from the 1950s.

Garage_Doors · Jan 8, 2015

Mowgli37 said:
The continued resistance to safe-standing in Britain baffles me. The vast majority of football fans would welcome a return to terraces and as the article demonstrates, a number of figures in the hierarchy of clubs want it as well. I get why Tony and Co wouldn't want to rip out the seats in the North so soon after opening the ground but I hope one day we can return to true standing in the North.

Its nothing to do with not wanting to rip out seats, if they did then they could fit more people in and get more revenue.
Its about crowd control.
All the item we are seated, each of us is identifiable, each seat is sold to an individual and is identifiable and accountable. If the seat owner for that game sells/give away they are still accountable and responsible for who is sitting in that seat.
Take the seat away and allow fans to roam freely on the terraces then you have anonymity for which the security see as a nightmare scenario.
All the time you are identifiable its deemed you will behave more respectfully.

GT49er · Jan 8, 2015

studio150 said:
The answer is yes you do, or you are in breach of the ground safety certificate. The stand should either be closed or Palace forced to play home games behind closed doors until they enforce the safety certificate.

If they started doing this, it wouldn't just be Palace that got closed down, would it?

Bruntburger · Jan 8, 2015

So are humans that attend lower league games and games in other countries stronger and more resistant to being squashed on a terrace than those humans that attend Premier/championship games?

Bruntburger · Jan 8, 2015

Programme_Seller said:
Its nothing to do with not wanting to rip out seats, if they did then they could fit more people in and get more revenue.
Its about crowd control.
All the item we are seated, each of us is identifiable, each seat is sold to an individual and is identifiable and accountable. If the seat owner for that game sells/give away they are still accountable and responsible for who is sitting in that seat.
Take the seat away and allow fans to roam freely on the terraces then you have anonymity for which the security see as a nightmare scenario.
All the time you are identifiable its deemed you will behave more respectfully.

Excellent point - I admit myself that I definitely get more tribal and loud on terracing than seated.
Thing is, I prefer the terrace experience and to me that's what football should be.

Dougie · Jan 8, 2015

studio150 said:
Palace only looking for a cheap option to upgrade their ground from the 1950s.

No we're not . The holmesdale is the only stand which doesn't need pulling down , just tweaking if we are allowed safe standing .

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