Not that it matters but I don't think I am - isn't fatalism a belief in pre determined events?
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2 year old shoots dead mother in USA
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Not that it matters but I don't think I am - isn't fatalism a belief in pre determined events?
vegster
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It's difficult to understand the Americans mentality on guns, maybe they nearly all grow up doing a bit of shooting with Pop or at Pop and feel its a right of passage thing. To me its a simple solution, limiting guns is just so obvious.
vegster
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I suppose at least when he gets his first gun he will be well aware of the safety catch.
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The only way to stop this happening again is to arm all 2 year olds.
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Yeah, it pretty much is.
I guess our differences here lie in what we'd do next. My reading of your comments, and others like it, are that you'd draw a line under it and say 'shame, but can't see what else we could have done' - as in it was unavoidable, which is about as close to a belief in things being pre-determined as you can get.
I take the view that many others here have, that it was inevitable with gun laws/attitudes as they are, but it was totally avoidable. So while it has a definite tragic element to it, I feel that it is as much farcical as it is tragic - although I accept that the family would feel different.
If I have put words in your mouth, sorry - just my reading of it.
FWIW, my view comes after spending a lot of time in SE Asia and I'd come across this attitude a lot about things that we'd never accept, such as helmets for children on motorbikes. Fatalism in this regard infuriated me, and is a lethal perspective.
Yeah - we're talking at cross purposes. My only point is that if tragedy is defined as an event causing intense suffering then I'm not convinced that the perceived likelihood of the event occurring is that relevant (especially to those closely affected). No comment or suggestion was intended on next steps or fatalism - there's clearly plenty that could be done if there was the collective will to do so.