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Publius Ovidius

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
46,004
at home
Bournemouth have developed and bought a decent enough squad so it won't affect them. QPR and Leicester fined by whom?

The fA?
 






Publius Ovidius

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
46,004
at home
But QPR and Leicester are not in the football league....I thought that was the whole point, that if they get relegated they need to pay any fine or they will not be able to rejoin the Football League? So that is why QPR are challenging it through the courts.
 




nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
13,744
Manchester
Football League.

I thought we had been assured by a Bournemouth poster in the know that they had passed....No great surprises in there though.

A poster on NSC who claims to be 'in the know' and it turns out that they're not? Surely some mistake?!
 


Husty

Mooderator
Oct 18, 2008
11,991
Bournemouth have developed and bought a decent enough squad so it won't affect them. QPR and Leicester fined by whom?

The fA?

Payable if they wish to re-enter the FL which I imagine they will at a point in time sooner rather than later.
 


jamie the seagull

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2011
2,803
But QPR and Leicester are not in the football league....I thought that was the whole point, that if they get relegated they need to pay any fine or they will not be able to rejoin the Football League? So that is why QPR are challenging it through the courts.

If they are relegated in the future they have to pay the outstanding fine before the Football League allow them entry. If the FL do not grant them entry they will have to join the Conference.
 




KZNSeagull

Well-known member
Nov 26, 2007
19,791
Wolsingham, County Durham
But QPR and Leicester are not in the football league....I thought that was the whole point, that if they get relegated they need to pay any fine or they will not be able to rejoin the Football League? So that is why QPR are challenging it through the courts.

It wasn't the whole point but an offshoot of it. Originally the fines would have been distributed amongst those Championship clubs that did not break the rules, so we would have got a share of 50m in fines, which would have been rather nice. But the PL objected and the money is now to go to charity.

QPR have been making noises about challenging it through the courts and there was talk that if they refused to pay the fine they would not be allowed back into the Football League. We will just have to see what happens.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,690
Crap Town
Payable if they wish to re-enter the FL which I imagine they will at a point in time sooner rather than later.

Any fines from the Fair Play Tax is donated to football based charities , QPR will challenge on the basis they were still in the Premier League when the original FFP rules for the Championship were introduced and therefore being promoted back to the Premier League at the first attempt makes them exempt from any fine the Football League tries to impose.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,155
Goldstone
QPR will challenge on the basis they were still in the Premier League when the original FFP rules for the Championship were introduced and therefore being promoted back to the Premier League at the first attempt makes them exempt from any fine the Football League tries to impose.
It's up to the FL to make their rules, and if a club wants to be in the FL, they have to agree to the rules. If QPR don't agree to the rules, the FL should be able to refuse entry, indefinitely.
 






Spun Cuppa

Thanks Greens :(
Sod donating it to charity. Divvy it up between the clubs that complied with FFP on a pro-rata basis. Non-compliance financing compliers ongoing costs. Cheating will mean you are shooting yourself in the foot, as you will be financing the oppo! Simple way to level the playing field at one stroke...
 


Se20

Banned
Oct 3, 2012
3,981
According to the Mail Blackburn, Bolton, Bournemouth, Birmingham, Middlesboro, Forest and Leeds have failed FFP and will be EMBARGOED in January, QPR will be fined £30million and Leicester £20million

Three of these teams could be in the Premier next season, so some could say it's a gamble worth taking ?
 




seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,690
Crap Town
It's up to the FL to make their rules, and if a club wants to be in the FL, they have to agree to the rules. If QPR don't agree to the rules, the FL should be able to refuse entry, indefinitely.

It could turn out that QPR are relegated and legal action is still ongoing in respect of the fine , in that scenario can the Football League still expel them ? The common sense answer is yes but there will be greedy legal experts arguing to the contrary.
 




seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,690
Crap Town
Sod donating it to charity. Divvy it up between the clubs that complied with FFP on a pro-rata basis. Non-compliance financing compliers ongoing costs. Cheating will mean you are shooting yourself in the foot, as you will be financing the oppo! Simple way to level the playing field at one stroke...

That was the original concept until the Premier League objected as the newly promoted clubs would then come under a different set of rules and guidelines.
 


GT49er

Well-known member
Feb 1, 2009
46,711
Gloucester
It's a shame WE can't have a transfer ban as long as Burke and his recruitment team are in charge............


Could have done with one in the summer, couldn't we?
 




Spun Cuppa

Thanks Greens :(
It could turn out that QPR are relegated and legal action is still ongoing in respect of the fine , in that scenario can the Football League still expel them ? The common sense answer is yes but there will be greedy legal experts arguing to the contrary.

Correctomundo

Football is just becoming a comedy media/money driven pot of pi$$, with more bollox talked and written about what is in truth, usually a very poor product. Probably 90% of what is played globally is shi#e, so we have to have 'controversy' to make it resemble something interesting...

Cue months of legalese nonsense and a limpwristed outcome...
 


ManxSeagull

NSC Creator
Jul 5, 2003
1,637
Isle of Man
But QPR and Leicester are not in the football league....I thought that was the whole point, that if they get relegated they need to pay any fine or they will not be able to rejoin the Football League? So that is why QPR are challenging it through the courts.

How can they challenge a ruling that they signed up to at the beginning of the season.

A club wouldn't dream of challenging the 3 points for a win rule if they were denied promotion or that they lost out on promotion due to the goal difference rule, rather than goals scored or alphabetical order (taking it to a petty extreme).
 


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