Remembrance Service at The Cenotaph.

Leekbrookgull · Nov 9, 2014

Just a thought,but am i alone in thinking after The Queen lays the first tribute should'nt actual veterans and their representives really file past The Cenotaph next before any 'here today gone tomorrow' politician lays a tribute ? Maybe if they had to stand around in the cold and wet for an hour or two it would give them time to reflect on their actions. Today is a day for the Veterans and the Nation surely ? :wave:

SIMMO SAYS · Nov 9, 2014

Leekbrookgull said:
Just a thought,but am i alone in thinking after The Queen lays the first tribute should'nt actual veterans and their representives really file past The Cenotaph next before any 'here today gone tomorrow' politician lays a tribute ? Maybe if they had to stand around in the cold and wet for an hour or two it would give them time to reflect on their actions. Today is a day for the Veterans and the Nation surely ?

Are you a relative of BensGrandad :moo:

Leekbrookgull · Nov 9, 2014

Lost me,Simmo ? I know there is a thread on Bens/G but not read it.

SIMMO SAYS · Nov 9, 2014

Leekbrookgull said:
Lost me,Simmo ? I know there is a thread on Bens/G but not read it.

Tongue in cheek mate

Me thinks you should peruse said thread :thumbsup:

Leekbrookgull · Nov 9, 2014

I don't actually think this is 'awkward' thread Simmo,but yes i can see where you coming from in these 'troubled' times on NSC. However as to my O/Post any coment ?

Brovion · Nov 9, 2014

Leekbrookgull said:
Just a thought,but am i alone in thinking after The Queen lays the first tribute should'nt actual veterans and their representives really file past The Cenotaph next before any 'here today gone tomorrow' politician lays a tribute ? Maybe if they had to stand around in the cold and wet for an hour or two it would give them time to reflect on their actions. Today is a day for the Veterans and the Nation surely ?

They're not laying wreaths as 'here today, gone tomorrow' politicians, they're laying them in their official capacities as members of Her Majesty's Government and Loyal Opposition - and as the direct descendents of the politicians who sent the soldiers into battle in the first place. If you want them to wait then the Queen should as well.

Leekbrookgull · Nov 9, 2014

Fair point,and maybe The Queen should be last (apart from HRM) i find it sad to see after 10/15 mins CMD and co disappear inside. Today is for those who never came back.

Spicy · Nov 9, 2014

I think that The Queen, the Government, Heads of State etc laying their wreaths first pays homage to the fallen and all those who have fought for our freedom.

Leekbrookgull · Nov 9, 2014

No issues,just mine is opposite. Whether it is CMD,Trust me Tony,etc . Just let them stand ,wait and reflect.

glasfryn · Nov 9, 2014

Leekbrookgull said:
No issues,just mine is opposite. Whether it is CMD,Trust me Tony,etc . Just let them stand ,wait and reflect.

and after all it was the politicians who got them into the wars ......................as Blackadder said we are right behind you, yeh 35 miles behind or at home in bed

Leekbrookgull · Nov 9, 2014

glas,just my veiw. Maybe even The Queen last, i am sure most peop;e would see that as the final act of remembrance ?

Lord Bracknell · Nov 9, 2014

Right from its inception, the shape and form of the ceremony at the Cenotaph has been dictated by the wishes of the monarch. It's clearly more "democratic" these days, but it's unlikely ever to become a people's day.

Leekbrookgull · Nov 9, 2014

Lord/B i am not asking for a peoples day,just why should the 'Politician' of the day be after HRM ?

SIMMO SAYS · Nov 9, 2014

Leekbrookgull said:
I don't actually think this is 'awkward' thread Simmo,but yes i can see where you coming from in these 'troubled' times on NSC. However as to my O/Post any coment ?

Most politicians should be taken out and shot

This would be a complete waste of bullets tho :thumbsup:

drew · Nov 9, 2014

Hardly think today is the day to try and score cheap points against the political parties of either shade.

desprateseagull · Nov 10, 2014

Just wonder if any MP claimed travel expenses etc, for that day..

Shropshire Seagull · Nov 10, 2014

Leeky, its the role / position not the person. The Queen has been our Monarch for 50 odd years, Cameron has been PM for only 4½ - it matters not.

Those poor souls gave their life for their country - that's the Monarch and the Government - those at the Cenotaph are merely the current representatives.

History test, who was the last Monarch to lead his troops into the battle, from the front?

Sergei's Celebration · Nov 10, 2014

I dont care if they are second to the queen or bringing up the back in last place. What matters is they fully comprehend the significance of the act and the weight of making the decision to send the military to battle is heavy on their shoulders with the eyes of those that know what that truly means are burning into the back of their heads.

Publius Ovidius · Nov 10, 2014

Didn't the war widows used to lay their wreathes two days before the Sunday ceremony and the establishment remove them on the Sunday morning as it should be clear for the royal family etc to lay theirs?

Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo! · Nov 11, 2014

Shropshire Seagull said:
Leeky, its the role / position not the person. The Queen has been our Monarch for 50 odd years, Cameron has been PM for only 4½ - it matters not.

Those poor souls gave their life for their country - that's the Monarch and the Government - those at the Cenotaph are merely the current representatives.

History test, who was the last Monarch to lead his troops into the battle, from the front?

George II.

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