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Thank Goodness we can say goodbye to FFP







seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
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Crap Town
I predict that Profit & Sustainability will only last 5 years max. It will be replaced by another plan.
 






spanish flair

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Jan 30, 2014
2,349
Brighton
Call it what you like until players wages are brought under control it can't change.

£40,000 a month for a bang average Championship player is what is f**king our game.

I agree and was that not what FFP was all about and the Albion was seen by many as the champions of it.
So why did we not vote for no change along with 6 other clubs?
 
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wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
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Aug 10, 2007
13,621
Melbourne
Call it what you like until players wages are brought under control it can't change.

£40,000 a month for a bang average Championship player is what is f**king our game.
£40K a month offends far less than £40k a week for an average prem ****.[emoji35]
 








lancyclaret

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Jan 10, 2014
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Burnley would have voted to keep the rules as they were if they had not been promoted - shame Brighton changed their mind.

If Brighton had stood firm, it would have screwed about 12/13 clubs, but most - like Boro, Bournemouth and Forest - have now been allowed to wriggle off the hook:(
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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'Profitability and Sustainability', aka FFP cop out.

This. My preference is to now just let clubs get on with it. Let them get hideously in debt and let the likes of Portsmouth and Leeds etc etc actually die off. Only when a few name clubs have died will people step back and take stock of the lunacy which is English football. Getting more and more in debt, laying people off, paying minimum wages to many of those you have to employ just to shovel eye-watering amounts of money into very average, if not crap, footballers pockets. Hoskins drove a Porsche, CMS has some fancy car which was the envy of others...how can failure be so well rewarded? I'm losing my interest in this.
 


nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
13,760
Manchester
Burnley would have voted to keep the rules as they were if they had not been promoted - shame Brighton changed their mind.

If Brighton had stood firm, it would have screwed about 12/13 clubs, but most - like Boro, Bournemouth and Forest - have now been allowed to wriggle off the hook:(

No they haven't. Last year's limits will still be applied to the financial reports that are due to be subkitted at the end of this month. And, importantly, the transfer sanctions will also apply.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,501
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Yes and we voted for it, I bet those other 6 clubs that didn't were surprised by us, us the ones who went constantly on the media saying the league must not weaken over the punishments.

This. No doubt Barber is busy composing a 20,000 word explanation for his volte-face. Whilst I do not agree with his approach to business I liked his stance on FFP; it turned out to be bullshit.
 


El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
39,705
Pattknull med Haksprut
Burnley would have voted to keep the rules as they were if they had not been promoted - shame Brighton changed their mind.

If Brighton had stood firm, it would have screwed about 12/13 clubs, but most - like Boro, Bournemouth and Forest - have now been allowed to wriggle off the hook:(

In theory though all the clubs that breached FFP last season will be subject to a transfer embargo in January though.
 


pauli cee

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Jan 21, 2009
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worthing
This. My preference is to now just let clubs get on with it. Let them get hideously in debt and let the likes of Portsmouth and Leeds etc etc actually die off. Only when a few name clubs have died will people step back and take stock of the lunacy which is English football. Getting more and more in debt, laying people off, paying minimum wages to many of those you have to employ just to shovel eye-watering amounts of money into very average, if not crap, footballers pockets. Hoskins drove a Porsche, CMS has some fancy car which was the envy of others...how can failure be so well rewarded? I'm losing my interest in this.


That just about sums up how I've been feeling about football the last couple of years.....
 




spanish flair

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Jan 30, 2014
2,349
Brighton
In theory though all the clubs that breached FFP last season will be subject to a transfer embargo in January though.

I have read somewhere, since the vote ( I wished I had bookmarked it) the Forest Chairman says, they can still deal in the transfer market as long as the squad does not rise above a certain number. And if it does they can transfer a player out and bring another in, but the player coming in has to be on 75% of the wage of the leaving player?
 


El Presidente

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Jul 5, 2003
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I have read somewhere, since the vote ( I wished I had bookmarked it) the Forest Chairman says, they can still deal in the transfer market as long as the squad does not rise above a certain number. And if it does they can transfer a player out and bring another in, but the player coming in has to be on 75% of the wage of the leaving player?

Correct, the FL definition of transfer embargo is as loose as the contents of my underpants after a prawn vindaloo.
 


spanish flair

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Jan 30, 2014
2,349
Brighton
Correct, the FL definition of transfer embargo is as loose as the contents of my underpants after a prawn vindaloo.

Well thats easy got around then. We will sign you on this basic (75% less than the leaving player) but we will give you a large bonus for goals scored, clean sheets, wins, draws, points and position in the table. Sorted.
 






PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
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I have read somewhere, since the vote ( I wished I had bookmarked it) the Forest Chairman says, they can still deal in the transfer market as long as the squad does not rise above a certain number. And if it does they can transfer a player out and bring another in, but the player coming in has to be on 75% of the wage of the leaving player?

24 registered players, Forest have that amount of forwards!

Just looked they have 27 in their 1st team squad so would have to go below 24 to buy and then at 75% of the 24th's wages
 


So it seems pretty much certain that the demise of FFP won't depress the market for players. So the big question remains whether our board intend to fund a realistic promotion campaign
 


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