FFP and paying for two managers?

Trigger · Oct 31, 2014

So, in these times of FFP and having no money to spend on players...

Why exactly are we paying two people (Hyypia & The Burke) to do one mans job?...

Surely in order for a manager to be successful he must have some sort of control of which players he actually wants rather than have a load of dross given to him?...

8ace · Oct 31, 2014

We'll be paying for three managers soon.

Rugrat · Oct 31, 2014

It would be interesting to see the commercial (and 'admin') structures. I've got a hunch those costs might be toe curling as well

spanish flair · Oct 31, 2014

Rugrat said:
It would be interesting to see the commercial (and 'admin') structures. I've got a hunch those costs might be toe curling as well

Just have a look at the Who's Who on the clubs web site, there is nearly more in that list than MP's at Westminster.

Giraffe · Oct 31, 2014

It's a fair point. Although I doubt Burke is on anything like what Hyypia is being paid.

Psychobilly freakout · Oct 31, 2014

spanish flair said:
Just have a look at the Who's Who on the clubs web site, there is nearly more in that list than MP's at Westminster.

It is becoming a good old boys network it seems.

spanish flair · Oct 31, 2014

Psychobilly freakout said:
It is becoming a good old boys network it seems.

I notice David Burke was raised in Hove, so it could be who you know.

Rugrat · Oct 31, 2014

spanish flair said:
I notice David Burke was raised in Hove, so it could be who you know.

At the recent Bloom/Barber talk in Horsham there were at least 3 suits in attendance (from the 'Commercial team') I'm pretty sure at least 2 of them were North American and I wondered if Barber was employing his chums from Vancouver?

smiler · Oct 31, 2014

8ace said:
We'll be paying for three managers soon.

....and hopefully two assistant managers

Bold Seagull · Oct 31, 2014

Trigger said:
Why exactly are we paying two people (Hyypia & The Burke) to do one mans job?...

It is never a one man job. Even if the manager has more control over transfers, he will still have a chief scout or director of scouting.

spanish flair · Oct 31, 2014

Bold Seagull said:
It is never a one man job. Even if the manager has more control over transfers, he will still have a chief scout or director of scouting.

Yes I agree, so can we have a good director of scouting please.

hans kraay fan club · Oct 31, 2014

spanish flair said:
I notice David Burke was raised in Hove, so it could be who you know.

Excellent - so two days ago, it was apparently an issue that Barber is a not a lifelong Brighton fan, and now its an issue that Burke IS local. Genius.

Rugrat said:
At the recent Bloom/Barber talk in Horsham there were at least 3 suits in attendance (from the 'Commercial team') I'm pretty sure at least 2 of them were North American and I wondered if Barber was employing his chums from Vancouver?

Paul Beirne (newish Commercial Director?) is Canadian.

edna krabappel · Oct 31, 2014

hans kraay fan club said:
Excellent - so two days ago, it was apparently an issue that Barber is a not a lifelong Brighton fan, and now its an issue that Burke IS local. Genius.

Paul Beirne (newish Commercial Director?) is Canadian.

And from Toronto, a mere 2,700 miles from Vancouver. Hell, they probably popped round each other's houses for tea every Wednesday afternoon.

hans kraay fan club · Oct 31, 2014

edna krabappel said:
And from Toronto, a mere 2,700 miles from Vancouver. Hell, they probably popped round each other's houses for tea every Wednesday afternoon.

That doesn't rule out the very likley possibility that his appointment was at least in part down to PB knowing him from MLS networking. Not that its a problem at all - its how MOST important posts at large companies are filled, after all.

fat old seagull · Oct 31, 2014

Rugrat said:
At the recent Bloom/Barber talk in Horsham there were at least 3 suits in attendance (from the 'Commercial team') I'm pretty sure at least 2 of them were North American and I wondered if Barber was employing his chums from Vancouver?

Was this them?

GT49er · Oct 31, 2014

spanish flair said:
Yes I agree, so can we have a good director of scouting please.

NO!

Chief Scout, please! A proper job, not a director of something! A chief scout directly answerable to the Manager, too.

Rugrat · Oct 31, 2014

fat old seagull said:
Was this them?

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One of them looks strangely familiar

fat old seagull · Oct 31, 2014

Rugrat said:
One of them looks strangely familiar

Please, please, please don't tell me it's your partner !

Vankleek Hill Seagull · Oct 31, 2014

hans kraay fan club said:
Paul Beirne (newish Commercial Director?) is Canadian.

He used to be the Executive Vice-President of Ticketing with the Ottawa Senators. He was previously the Vice-President of Business Operations for Toronto FC, starting as the Club's first employee when it was founded in 2006.

No wonder everything has gone tit's up at the moment. He's worked for two of the worst performing teams in Canada.

drew · Oct 31, 2014

GT49er said:
NO!

Chief Scout, please! A proper job, not a director of something! A chief scout directly answerable to the Manager, too.

Out of interest, what makes you convinced a manager with little experience is better at spotting talent than some else?

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