UKIP are now a parliamentary party

Juan Albion · Oct 10, 2014

UKIP now have a seat in parliament after winning in Clacton. They also came within 620 of taking a Labour safe seat, so is this the breakthrough they've been looking for, or is it just a typical mid-term protest vote?

BadFish · Oct 10, 2014

Thank god for UKIP we really need the immigrant problem sorting out in that part of Essex.

http://www.ukcensusdata.com/tendring-e07000076#sthash.gIQYt6ds.dpbs

pastafarian · Oct 10, 2014

BadFish said:
Thank god for UKIP we really need the immigrant problem sorting out in that part of Essex.

http://www.ukcensusdata.com/tendring-e07000076#sthash.gIQYt6ds.dpbs

perhaps the people of Essex voted with the bigger picture in mind,with regards to immigration policy,thinking about the UK as a whole and not just a little corner of Essex

must try harder Fishy!

pastafarian · Oct 10, 2014

quite interesting to watch the post match interviews with each of the main 3 parties arguing about who had lost the most votes to UKIP. You all did you mongs!

Interesting also how the main 3 parties are now all singing from the same hymn sheet and claiming UKIP is a protest party against the failings of Westminster in general.

How do these idiots expect anyone to vote for them if they dont even know what the primary main purpose of their new rival is about.

clueless divvies the lot of them

Leekbrookgull · Oct 10, 2014

The Heywood result is the interesting in that it could well mean any MP is no longer safe ?

BadFish · Oct 10, 2014

pastafarian said:
perhaps the people of Essex voted with the bigger picture in mind,with regards to immigration policy,thinking about the UK as a whole and not just a little corner of Essex

must try harder Fishy!

Perhaps indeed Pasta.

beorhthelm · Oct 10, 2014

while Clacton obviously saw a tory loss, if you look at the numbers they still kept 40% of their vote. so where did all 21k votes for Carswell come from? Labour lost 6k there and almost lost Heywood, so they must be very worried this morning.

Mo Gosfield · Oct 10, 2014

As far as I am concerned, Farage can keep banging the UKIP drum as long as he likes until people finally realise that we are selling our souls to the most corrupt public body the world has ever seen. Any organisation that has not been able to have its accounts signed off for over 10 years should be out of business, closed down. It is illegal and criminal and yet it is largely shaping our future. It is a bureaucratic gravy train, offering additional big fat pensions ( at the tax payers expense ) to fading politicians. It is a private members club for overpaid officialdom.
Its cost outweighs its benefits. As you can gather, I'm not a fan.

Rookie · Oct 10, 2014

Don't get why it is such a big deal, the people of clacton seemed to vote for the bloke they already knew and had previously been their MP.
It could have been any party and he would still have won.

Deleted member 22389 · Oct 10, 2014

BadFish said:
Thank god for UKIP we really need the immigrant problem sorting out in that part of Essex.

http://www.ukcensusdata.com/tendring-e07000076#sthash.gIQYt6ds.dpbs

What's wrong with a sensible immigration policy, did Australia just allow you to walk in? What where your requirements before being allowed in to Australia.
Could you just turn up at their border because you a member of the EU and start working?

Westdene Seagull · Oct 10, 2014

Rookie said:
Don't get why it is such a big deal, the people of clacton seemed to vote for the bloke they already knew and had previously been their MP.
It could have been any party and he would still have won.

You may be right that they selected the bloke they already thought was a good MP BUT, the surprise was that it was with an increased majority. Combined with the Heywood result ( remember that was classed as a 'safe' Labour seat ) and you can bet both Red Ed and CMD are changing their underpants this morning.

There's going to be some on here with egg on their face come the GE.

Herr Tubthumper · Oct 10, 2014

beorhthelm said:
while Clacton obviously saw a tory loss, if you look at the numbers they still kept 40% of their vote. so where did all 21k votes for Carswell come from? Labour lost 6k there and almost lost Heywood, so they must be very worried this morning.

Good job it's first past the post eh?

sahel · Oct 10, 2014

Juan Albion said:
UKIP now have a seat in parliament after winning in Clacton. They also came within 620 of taking a Labour safe seat, so is this the breakthrough they've been looking for, or is it just a typical mid-term protest vote?

UKIP attract about 15 to 20% of the population who go for their simplistic populist policies. If these people are energised, as in this by election, and the turnout is low (51%) UKIP will get a high share of the vote as they did. It is up to the 80% sensible people to vote to make sure these silly people do not succeed. As Edmund Burke might have said "The only necessary thing for UKIP to triumph is for good people to do nothing"

Mo Gosfield · Oct 10, 2014

sahel said:
UKIP attract about 15 to 20% of the population who go for their simplistic populist policies. If these people are energised, as in this by election, and the turnout is low (51%) UKIP will get a high share of the vote as they did. It is up to the 80% sensible people to vote to make sure these silly people do not succeed. As Edmund Burke might have said "The only necessary thing for UKIP to triumph is for good people to do nothing"

Thats a bit ' Monty Pythonish ' isn't it?
A lot of people voting UKIP are doing so because they are sensible enough to work out what membership of the EU actually means and what it is costing us and what we are getting in return. They do not want to turn a blind eye to the bureaucratic corruption in Brussels and Strasbourg. The tens of millions going missing. The complete lack of accountability. The loss of control over much of our law-making. Faceless civil sevants controlling our lives and charging us a fortune for the privilege. They want some control back.

Flex Your Head · Oct 10, 2014

beorhthelm said:
while Clacton obviously saw a tory loss, if you look at the numbers they still kept 40% of their vote.

The Tories won less than 25% of the vote.
If they kept 40% of their vote, that means they lost a whopping 60%.

sahel · Oct 10, 2014

Mo Gosfield said:
Thats a bit ' Monty Pythonish ' isn't it?
A lot of people voting UKIP are doing so because they are sensible enough to work out what membership of the EU actually means and what it is costing us and what we are getting in return. They do not want to turn a blind eye to the bureaucratic corruption in Brussels and Strasbourg. The tens of millions going missing. The complete lack of accountability. The loss of control over much of our law-making. Faceless civil sevants controlling our lives and charging us a fortune for the privilege. They want some control back.

They don't understand that being part of a huge home market creates jobs. They don't realise that the EU has guaranteed peace in the past and will in the future. They don't understand that we need immigration to save us from an ageing population. They don't realise what a complete nonsense the UKIP manifesto was at the last election - so ridiculous that Farage now disowns it despite signing it off. They don't realise how circumscribed every government is in a globalised world and what sovereignty actually means in a modern world. They don't understand much except "they don't like what is going on". Not much of a basis for anything sensible

Can you imagine what would happen on day 1 of a UKIP government?

BadFish · Oct 10, 2014

bashlsdir said:
What's wrong with a sensible immigration policy, did Australia just allow you to walk in? What where your requirements before being allowed in to Australia.
Could you just turn up at their border because you a member of the EU and start working?

I am white and Anglo Saxon, so very welcome

StonehamPark · Oct 10, 2014

Good for UKIP.

atfc village · Oct 10, 2014

The woeful way you have led the country Dave has ended like this.

5mins-from-amex · Oct 10, 2014

sahel said:
They don't understand that being part of a huge home market creates jobs. They don't realise that the EU has guaranteed peace in the past and will in the future. They don't understand that we need immigration to save us from an ageing population. They don't realise what a complete nonsense the UKIP manifesto was at the last election - so ridiculous that Farage now disowns it despite signing it off. They don't realise how circumscribed every government is in a globalised world and what sovereignty actually means in a modern world. They don't understand much except "they don't like what is going on". Not much of a basis for anything sensible

Can you imagine what would happen on day 1 of a UKIP government?

Keep banging that drum, believe everything that you have been drip fed by main stream media while us 'silly people' can see the bigger picture.

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