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It's not often I agree with a Tory.......
- Thread starter Herr Tubthumper
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Nibble
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- Jan 3, 2007
- 19,238
2015 General Election will be one of the biggest landslide victories for Labour this country has ever seen. UKIP are soaking up all the numpty right wing votes that normally went to the Tories. I'm proper looking forward to getting our labour government back and consigning the last 4 years of Tory dictatorship to the annals of regrettable history.
Franks Wild Years
New member
I shall ask Anne Widdicombe who is currently sat next to me on a train, what she thinks.
fat old seagull
New member
Well ?
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Osborne on now droning on with the usual lies and attacks on peoples rights, he must be confident of the OAP vote as nobody under 25 or with kids with a right mind will vote for the Tories in 2015
Franks Wild Years
New member
**** that she's way to scary.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
shaolinpunk
[Insert witty title here]
Osborne is going to freeze jobseekers' allowance, income support, tax credits and housing & child benefits. Meanwhile, the cost of living continues to rise.
There's no way that will increase poverty levels and the number of people dependent on food banks. Nope. No way.
There's no way that will increase poverty levels and the number of people dependent on food banks. Nope. No way.
Nibble
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- Jan 3, 2007
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There is money swilling around. Difference between Tories and Labour is that Labour share it with the population, Tories hoard it for them and their business chums.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
The budget deficit that has risen in the last 2 years under Osbornes chancellorship ?
Long way to go so it might be wise for Labour supporters not to get too smug just yet. After all what was it Ed forgot to mention in his speech ? Ah .... yes .... only the small matter of the economy. I'm sure as the election gets closer people might decide voting for Bungle as PM and for Zippy as Chancellor might be a step too far.
Hornblower
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- Jul 7, 2003
- 1,707
The Daily Mail readers on here won't like to hear the uncomfortable truth which is that most of the people in the UK receiving benefit are actually working people who cannot get by on the awful wages they are paid. Another four years of Tory rule and things will get even worse.
Not all the time your have Silliband at the helm.
Really ? There was more money handed over to outsourcing companies like Capita under that last Labour government than by any other government. How about the PFI deals Labour struck which have right royally screwed over the public finances ?
Agreed the Tories don't hand out the money to the likes of you and me but nor did Labour. The closest anyone has got to doing that is the Lib Dems with the decent increases in the personal allowance.
Nibble
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- Jan 3, 2007
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Labour were generous with benefits ( probably too lenient on who got benefits but there you go), Labour spent money on women's services (refuges etc) spent money on drug rehabilitation, spent money on social services, social reform, the list goes on.
I assume we agree that the benefits you're talking about are things like working tax credit and child tax credit and that they are necessary for those that are low paid ?
I wonder which government brought them in ? Ah, yes, Labour - so for 7 years of a Labour government the wages of some were so low that the government had to top them up. The difference between Tory government and Labour government - almost bugger all.
spring hall convert
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Did you see the bit about Osbourne borrowing more in this Parliament than Labour did?
Hornblower
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- Jul 7, 2003
- 1,707
I will be very surprised if the Tories promise an £8 minimum wage, Labour did at their conference. In any case, you surely can't be criticising Labour for introducing working tax credits etc. the Tories, if they get in next year will set about further dismantling of the welfare system, oh, and don't forget to tell your granny that she will need to take her purse with her when she goes to the doctors surgery in a couple of years time.